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Lonely ⛰️Mountain -A Pentagram ?

Gandalf to the party before parting... "Not a step further this way, thank you! The rest is your affair though if you ever find the dragon (& escape him againa!) I hope you will remember your old friend... " Pg 142 A Brief History of The Hobbit. This quote shows how Gandalf despite being their friend urgently must attend other business and it shall be their bravery which will help them defeat Smaug. Then please remember our friendship ...
 
The Hobbit is interestingly steeped in the same magic attributed to Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. For the Green Knight is also steeped in magic, he is green and lusty. Its a different magic and evil attributed to the Pentagram. The virtues belonging to the Pentangle belong to the heart in that the ones possessing these look with scorn over the magic displayed by the Pentagram.. While the farther one is from the Pentangle the more power imbued by the Pentagram over the elements: Air, Water, Fire, Earth. Though the elements are also used well, waters cleanse for example. This iS my idea.
 
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Against the seven vices of the pentagram, lust, wrath, pride, gluttony, etc, Tolkien advises Gawain's pentangle; friendship, courtesy, chastity, etc...
 
Q.E.D. ... Not so actually, I discovered something new regarding Tom Bombadi who was the first and the eldest and whose power "...is in the earth itself. And yet we see that Sauron can torture and destroy the very hills." Galdor says this at The Council of Elrond on Iarwain who being the first would be the last to fall. I re-read your quote and explanation on Morgoth and his power in Middle Earth, he may have had power over Bombadil unlike Sauron though for Sauron Galdor said that he could torture the hills. Bombadil and wife have or draw power from the positive aspects of nature, such as the rejuvination and the freshness of Spring. However, on all the things I have said before together with pentagram and the elements I should quote the following also from, The Council of Elrond... "
 
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Maybe as Tom Bombadil was the eldest he could have been placed in middle earth to counter Morgoths deathly influence and hurt on the earth. A sort of healer though not exactly keeping things in balance as for that there was Manwe and co. Earlyer i mentioned that Bombadil and wife draw power from nature, they might not draw any power after all, they could be guardians or healers, tom that is.
 
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Rath Dínen is on the Eastern slope of Mindolluin. And technically it isn't on Mindolluin proper, but on the saddle between Mindolluin and the hill upon which Minas Anor/Tirith was built.


And I would not be so quick as to dismiss any significance to Tolkien's maps. There are a great many Symbolic things within them.

But I don't think that the shape of Erebor is one of them, only it's location, and the orientation of the map.

MB
 
I just found this quote, Unfinished Tales, A Description Of The Island Of Numenor ... pg 165... The land of Numenor resembled in outline a five-pointed star, or pentangle..." there he likens the island to a pentangle and not a pentagram, for me this proves all that i have said and its a good thing to find that numbers can have double meanings in this case he focused on good virtues, ie friendship etc...case closed in my opinion at least.
 
I think it's very plausible, maybe not intentionally given the fact that Tolkien was in fact a very religious man. I find the idea intriguing though, and I like it. The idea of Earth, win, fire and water has always played some part in fiction. Mostly, because of the lore behind the elements and Tolkien was very much intrigued by the Arthurian lore and legends. And that did involve elements of both Paganism and Christianity. Morgan Le Fay, represented the fay (Fearie folk) or Pagans in the Arthurian myths. And Arthur represented the newly established religion of Christianity, in England, meant to unite the English peoples.

Knowing this is important to your idea because it implies that Tolkien knew of the Pagan religion, which is not far fetched as he was fascinated by history and language. And the very image of the Elvish are an example of what the Fay or Fairy folk in the old lore of England and Wales and so on.

And the whole notion of the hero's journey is apart of this idea. In the old myths and legends of England, like Beowulf and Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Tales of which Tolkien was heavily influenced by.
 
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