HLGStrider
All Knowing Magic Cat
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OK. The way I make these threads is I ask a question and attempt to answer it myself and then critisize my answer and then critisize my critisism of the answer, etc.
Setting the stage: In the Return of the King, there is the scene where Gandalf rushes out to defend Faramir's retreating army from the Nazgul. I didn't notice it really when I watched it in the theater, but I thought since I had watched it for enjoyment in the theater I'd have more fun and try to tweak it a little when I brought it home and so I was scanning for anything I could question. Pippin is on Gandalf's horse during the charge. In the books, it's a little different. We have the scene where Beregond and Pippin are watching from the top of the wall and Gandalf rides to save them.
Question: Why would Gandalf take a Hobbit out to battle?
Answer:
A. Because there was no Beregond.
B. So Faramir could see him when he came in and you could have the "not the first halfling" line.
Critisism of the answer:
A explains why Pippin wasn't watching from the wall, but that was only useful because of the narrative in the book being described from Pippin's point of view. Pippin didn't have to be on that horse for this reason.
B doesn't really cut it. Pippin could've been waiting when they return to the city and he could've run up saying something stupid to Gandalf and trip over his feet or something or other. This is basically what happened in the book, midst the cheering crowds and all that.
Critisism of the cristism: there was no time for cheering crowds! Plus without the Denethor confrontation scene that follows the Halfling information had to come out then and there.
C of the c of the c: Why couldn't it have come out then and there without Pippin being a hood ornament on Shadowfax? He'd only get on the way.
BLah!
Any thoughts?
B
Setting the stage: In the Return of the King, there is the scene where Gandalf rushes out to defend Faramir's retreating army from the Nazgul. I didn't notice it really when I watched it in the theater, but I thought since I had watched it for enjoyment in the theater I'd have more fun and try to tweak it a little when I brought it home and so I was scanning for anything I could question. Pippin is on Gandalf's horse during the charge. In the books, it's a little different. We have the scene where Beregond and Pippin are watching from the top of the wall and Gandalf rides to save them.
Question: Why would Gandalf take a Hobbit out to battle?
Answer:
A. Because there was no Beregond.
B. So Faramir could see him when he came in and you could have the "not the first halfling" line.
Critisism of the answer:
A explains why Pippin wasn't watching from the wall, but that was only useful because of the narrative in the book being described from Pippin's point of view. Pippin didn't have to be on that horse for this reason.
B doesn't really cut it. Pippin could've been waiting when they return to the city and he could've run up saying something stupid to Gandalf and trip over his feet or something or other. This is basically what happened in the book, midst the cheering crowds and all that.
Critisism of the cristism: there was no time for cheering crowds! Plus without the Denethor confrontation scene that follows the Halfling information had to come out then and there.
C of the c of the c: Why couldn't it have come out then and there without Pippin being a hood ornament on Shadowfax? He'd only get on the way.
BLah!
Any thoughts?
B
