Second-guessing and Misunderstanding Tolkien

[Deimos]

I'm going to assume you realize that's a fake cover.

I did assume that, but I also Googled it to find the "history" behind it.
Still, "veeeerrrry cleveerrrr..." 😄😉

 

[Erestor Arcamen]

I liked The Boy and His Horse the most I think. I thought it was interesting going to the place between worlds and where the witch came from, etc.

 

[LaurelinBearsFruit]

I seem to have derailed this thread altogether! Though that may be a sign of my fitting into this community better than anything else 🤣

 

[Deimos]

I liked The Boy and His Horse the most I think. I thought it was interesting going to the place between worlds and where the witch came from, etc.

I found that whole concept of a place between worlds fascinating, mainly because it was always in the present, where "nothing much happened" (except when a pool dried up, indicating a world had ended.) And I have to admit that I liked that the guinea pigs Uncle Andrew had not "exploded like little bombs" stayed there permanently, away from his abuse.
In retrospect the way the "place between worlds" worked reminded me of the place/planet that Dave Bowman visits while in the pod (and which is controlled by "others"). He looks down from a great height and sees what he thinks are a lot of "TMAs" dotting the planet. Then he watches a space ship approach a TMA and it goes right through it (as he did with the TMA on Japetus). He concludes that the whole planet is a "cosmic switching station".

 

[Radaghast]

I liked The Boy and His Horse the most I think. I thought it was interesting going to the place between worlds and where the witch came from, etc.

I won't say anything further about the Narnia Chronicles as there's a thread for it already; my fault for bringing it up in the first place. One last thing, however: it's The Horse and His Boy 😁(though perhaps "The Boy and His Horse" is more apt).

And now, in an attempt to rerail this thread:

Is valinor in the LOTR universe actually North America? Was Tolkien inspired by America when he created Valinor? Did Frodo go to America in the last LOTR movie?

 

[Deimos]

And now, in an attempt to rerail this thread:

Is valinor in the LOTR universe actually North America? Was Tolkien inspired by America when he created Valinor? Did Frodo go to America in the last LOTR movie?

This is a for real question? Someone actually asked this in all seriousness?
If so, this is scary.
We're doomed... the human race is doomed.

 

[Tar-Elenion]

I won't say anything further about the Narnia Chronicles as there's a thread for it already; my fault for bringing it up in the first place. One last thing, however: it's The Horse and His Boy 😁(though perhaps "The Boy and His Horse" is more apt).

And now, in an attempt to rerail this thread:

Is valinor in the LOTR universe actually North America? Was Tolkien inspired by America when he created Valinor? Did Frodo go to America in the last LOTR movie?

Inspired by? I rather doubt it...
But:
"I think now that it is best that it should remain a physical landmass (America!)"
NoMe, The Númenórean Catastrophe & End of “Physical” Aman (c. 1959)

 

[Olorgando]

I won't say anything further about the Narnia Chronicles as there's a thread for it already; my fault for bringing it up in the first place. One last thing, however: it's The Horse and His Boy 😁(though perhaps "The Boy and His Horse" is more apt).

And now, in an attempt to rerail this thread:

Is valinor in the LOTR universe actually North America? Was Tolkien inspired by America when he created Valinor? Did Frodo go to America in the last LOTR movie?

1. No
2. No
3. No, sailing west from New Zealand (North Island) would have landed him in Australia.

 

[Ent]

p.s. I suppose everything's fine, unless you decide to change to {something} Huorn {something}

But you see, this is exactly the issue.
I sense I'm becoming positively tree-ish...and need to become even more so.
We shall see.

 

[Radaghast]

It's said that Smaug is the main antagonist of The Hobbit, and yet he only occurred in two scenes. Wouldn't it be better if he were featured in Lord of the Rings and allied himself with Sauron?

 

[Olorgando]

It's said that Smaug is the main antagonist of The Hobbit, and yet he only occurred in two scenes. Wouldn't it be better if he were featured in Lord of the Rings and allied himself with Sauron?

Looks like somebody entirely missed the whole point of "The Hobbit" ... 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

And probably LOTR.

 

[Radaghast]

Looks like somebody entirely missed the whole point of "The Hobbit" ... 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

I'm not sure this person has even read either book.

 

[LaurelinBearsFruit]

Even if they had read any of the books before, this is a common problem with our culture at the time being. We (and I suppose I mean mostly people from my generation or younger) have been brought up to believe that every piece of literature has a certain amount of allegory and hidden agenda that applies to the political and social battles in our real world. It doesn't help that this is being taught explicitly in schools now as well.

It seems impossible, or that very least improbable, to many people under 35 for a piece of literature to be about just the subjects involved without the infusion of real-world allegories. It unfortunately doesn't matter that Tolkien himself stated his disdain for allegory on many, many occasions.

 

[Radaghast]

How powerful are the Nazgûl and any other Ring bearers in Middle-Earth?

Questions like this make my soul bleed.

 

[Deimos]

Looks like somebody entirely missed the whole point of "The Hobbit" ... 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

And probably LOTR.

I'm not sure this person has even read either book.

No, somebody entirely missed out when brains were handed out. 🙄

 

[Vorondil]

No, somebody entirely missed out when brains were handed out. 🙄

Or maybe they're just related to this guy.

 

[LaurelinBearsFruit]

@Deimos Perhaps the brains they received were just abby-normal?

 

[Radaghast]

Which character is as strong between Sauron and Morgoth/Melkor?

😕

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Radaghast, you're a brave soul.

Well that, or a masochist. 😄