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The 10 Greatest Wars in the History of Middle Earth

Turin_Turambar

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I didn't add Battle of the Powers to the list because there were only Valar and Maiar in Battle of the Powers, not Elves and Men.

1-DAGOR DAGORATH
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2-WAR OF WRATH
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3-NIRNAETH ARNOEDIAD
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4-DAGOR BRAGOLLACH
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5-WAR OF THE LAST ALLIANCE
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6-BATTLE OF THE PELENNOR FIELDS
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7-FALL OF GONDOLIN
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8-BATTLE OF TUMHALAD
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9-DAGOR-NUIN-GILIATH
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10-DAGOR AGLAREB
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There is no doubt these battles stir the blood—light against shadow, dragons against valor, the air humming with ruin and courage. From the flames of the War of Wrath to the black tide on the Pelennor, each is a thunderclap in the long storm of Arda’s history. But to ask which was the greatest? That seems a question Men ask when they have not yet seen the cost of war up close. Wouldn't the greatest war be the last so that none more would follow? Even after the Ring was destroyed, evil was not.

If you would ask Tolkien, I think he would have answered not with a ranking, but with silence. Because he had seen war firsthand. Not the tidy kind with noble charges and trumpets, but the grim chaos of the Somme. Trenches. Gas. Men turned to mud. He knew the horror of war firsthand, and he carried that weight into Middle-earth and his writing. In his legendarium, greatness in war is never triumph without tears. The Valar’s victory over Melkor broke the world. Fingolfin’s duel with Morgoth was glorious—and utterly hopeless. The Field of Cormallen blooms with gladness, but it is bought with Frodo’s unhealing wound, not to mention all of the other horrors wrought by the War of the Ring. In Middle-earth, the “greatest” war is the one you hoped would never be fought.

And still… war comes.

Perhaps the true answer lies not in the scale of the clash or the beauty of the banners, in how great a hero was, but in the quiet aftermath. The replanting of the White Tree. Sam’s return to Rosie. The singing of lamentations in the halls of Mandos that none of the living ever hear (other than @Glorfindel Goldtress, maybe?).

So perhaps the true answer lies not in the scale of the clash or the beauty of the banners, the might of the heroes, but in the quiet aftermath. The replanting of the White Tree. Sam’s return to Rosie. The singing of lamentations in the halls of Mandos that none of the living shall hear.

Because, as Tolkien once wrote in On Fairy-Stories, “The oldest and deepest desire is to hold communion with other living things.” Not to destroy them. Even Morgoth began not with a desire to conquer, but to possess—to make the music his own. And that was the first battle, truly.

So no—there is no greatest war. Only the long grief of Arda, and the light that flickers stubbornly through it.

Sorry to disappoint those looking for a scoreboard.
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Klaatu of the Intersecting Rounds
Monarch of Mild Confusion
Bearer of the One Sock That Was Lost in the Great Laundry of Mandos
Erudite Architect of the Archival Egg-Chamber of Eä
Rotational Adjunct to the Steward of the Speculative Halls

P.S. For what it’s worth, the greatest war I ever witnessed was the Battle of the Tea Totalers of Narcus 9 versus the Vodka Warlocks of Gooblat 7. Seven minutes long, not counting the vodka pouring. It involved six explosions, two polkas, a goose named Henry, and a giant inflatable beaver that was allergic to maple trees. The truce was written on a 2x4 piece of lumber that had a black dahlia tattoo it received one night after hanging out with the Vodka warlocks. Utterly magnificent.
 
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Indeed, in this I fear @Klaatu mirrors (for the most part) Ent's thoughts - previously spoken elsewhere.
(Of course, Ent also just fears Klaatu, but we'll bypass that for the moment.)

Which was the greatest war? The one that involved the most people? The most different races?
That killed the most people - exterminated the most races?
The one including the greatest array of weaponry? Or the most fearsome manufactured beasts?

The one with the most chieftains, resplendent in their magnificent garb, charging at the head of their columns into the gaping jaws of the hereafter - or the one with fewer people, or just one, far removed from the battlefield, pressing buttons from the comfort of an overstuffed armchair. with no connection to the scenes of destruction at all?

Ent says Nay..!
Mirroring Yoda, Ent reminds "wars do not make one great." Nor are wars great in themselves. They are but the symbols - the outworkings - of the greatest failure imaginable.

But Ent has a slightly different finale to his thoughts than the illustrious Klaatu in this case.
A 'greatest war' does exist.
It is THE ONE NEVER FOUGHT.
It is the one avoided.
The one resolving differences without need for death and destruction, imposition of one will and desire over another.
The one involving the least physical and financial resources, allowing their turn toward improvement of the condition and growth of of all those war seeks to destroy.

No, we must look well beyond the "act" and "actions" of war, to see its root - its true causes - and overcome the selfishness, avarice, and greed driving people to war to begin with. (And PLEASE don't mention 'ideology' - this is just the label put on the particular expression of the selfishness, avarice, and greed in the driver's seat, resulting in the desire to war to begin with.)

The misfortune is, given the nature of the races and peoples Tolkien, and our real world too, dealt and deal with with, the only true "war to end all wars" (as one was labeled in error in the past), would be the one completely obliterating every species existing, leaving none in its wake. For the benefit and peace of Arda/the earth itself, this might be called a 'great' war.

But for any other? The greatest is the one avoided.
 
When I spoke of the last war being the greatest, it was not a wish for some purifying inferno, nor a hope that war itself could fix what it breaks. Far from it. It was symbolic—an imagining of the final war, not in scale, but in function: the one after which we no longer need them. The last tantrum of a world growing past its worst self.

But as you rightly said, we’ve seen the nature of Men. In Arda and in our own round world, they fight not always because they must, but because they believe they ought—to preserve, to punish, to possess. They name it justice, or duty, or security. But underneath? A hunger. Sometimes for safety. Sometimes for fire.

And after all that—Men write poetry about war. To make meaning. To grieve. To glorify. To mask the horror, or to bear witness to it. Tolkien did it with The Silmarillion. Wilfred Owen did it with blood on the page. The songs survive longer than the spears. And if that last war ever came, none would be left to write the bloody poem.

So no, we may never reach that “final war” that ends all war. And maybe that’s for the best. Because war cannot end war. Only mercy, wisdom, and the hard work of healing can do that.

But if the last war ever does come… then yes. That would be the greatest.

Not for its fire.

But because it was the last.

Klaatu, Distant Echo of Disarmed Spheres
Custodian of the Eighth Best Nap Spot in Lórien
Assistant Under-Archivist of the Lost and Mildly Sticky Scrolls
Bearer of the Rusted Key That Opens No Known Lock
Suspected by Some to Be the Reincarnation of a Bearded Tulip
 
Well now. Some of the junk above is worth the reading! (sniff) Thought about war a lot in prison recently, and what's right and wrong and really means anything at the end of the day. Started to wonder about right, wrong, good, bad, and how we decided. But then my hair got tangled up in my chains, which really helped me understand tragedy. (sniff) Then I lost my train of thought.
 
Oh no, @Lobelia B. S-B. Ent hopes and trusts there are no lasting consequences. How long ago was that?
Let him know if any of his twigs or leaves can help with any remaining gaps.
 

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