The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power – Teaser Trailer

Firinne Gile said:

I recommend that everyone who is suffering censorship go to TheOnering.com Forum, there is no censorship there. The basis of a forum is discussion, but when those who filter the conversations don't accept other points of view, the forum simply dies. I say no to all of Ted Sandyman's disciples!

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Thank you for the link, and there really is no censurship, and i can say openly, why i totally dislike the Amazon heap of trash?

You said so here -- many times. Some of the threads became, not merely repetitious, but toxic.

Yup it's not censoring when you're posting images with inappropriate language and doing nothing but criticizing actors/actresses for the color of their skin. Not calling anyone here racist and I don't have a problem with criticizing the series, I have problems with it too. The threads that were closed were just repeating the same drivel over and over and becoming toxic.

If you want to discuss and criticize the series that's always allowed. TTF's never allowed political discussion, that didn't just become a thing when this series started.

Erestor Arcamen said:

Yup it's not censoring when you're posting images with inappropriate language and doing nothing but criticizing actors/actresses for the color of their skin. Not calling anyone here racist and I don't have a problem with criticizing the series, I have problems with it too. The threads that were closed were just repeating the same drivel over and over and becoming toxic.

If you want to discuss and criticize the series that's always allowed. TTF's never allowed political discussion, that didn't just become a thing when this series started.

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Sure it is censorship, if you delete all posts, in which user write, why they dislike the fact, that Amazon produces Lord of the rings far away from Tolkiens work.
I didnt use an inapprobiate language, i have just critisized the fact, that Amazon
totally ignore the fact about what skin elves and dwarfes have in Tolkiens book. That is no racism, that is the normal annoyance of a Tolkienfan, which is very shocked, that Amazon abuse Tolkiens name for produce this heap of trash.
I is absolutely not political, if i critisize the fact, that Amazon ignore the skin of Tolkiens elves and dwarfes and show them in a very wrong way, which has nothing to do with Tolkiens work.
It is not racism and it is not political, if you are very annoyed about how Amazon ignore the look of Tolkiens elves and dwarfes.

Firinne Gile said:

It wasn't me who wrote the inappropriate words and you could have just warned me to withdraw or hide the message. You told me yourself that you deleted it from other people's messages in my thread. I never talked about anyone's skin color. You should know that even the Amazon series is involved in political issues and you can hide in a bubble but the real world is out there.

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They also have delete a post of mine, where i have written, that the Amazon-Galadriel looks like a cheap Jeanne Darc. That was also no inapprobiate language, that was the truth. And the word cheap is no inapprobiate word, it perfectly describe, what Amazon made of Galadriel.
And it i not political, if we all critisize the sad fact, that Amazon totally ignore how Tolkien described elves and dwarfes in his books. i am totally angry, that this moderation here says, that is political.
And how should we discuss about a serie, which is produce by a company, that only produces movies and series with a political agenda?

Firinne Gile said:

We can't, that's what he means. We can't say what we think and I'm not going to stand here humiliating myself and writing only what is approved. Who wants to find me in the other forum my username has the same name and also the photo.

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Yes, it is a big shame, that they delete our posts, only because we write the truth. It is really disgusting, how people here defend this big heap of trash, that Amazon has produce and abuse Tolkiens name for making money with it 😡
This serie looks like "Bridgerton" and "Wheel of time": very different from the book, with disrespectful about how the authors of this books have describe their figures. Such big heaps of trash are not worth to watch by fans of this books.
And they have also taken the Amazon-posts from the "Latest Posts" list, that is also a total ridiculous censorship.

Firinne Gile said:

This is beyond saving. They cannot see how they are helping to build a monster that will devour them and soon what they are doing to the users will be done to them. Goodbye @LadyGaladriel1980 , I'll wait for you on the other forum to discuss our ideas and be treated with respect and civility.

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I have registered there a few minutes ago, (same name as here) but i got the message "your account has not been validated. Have you also get this message? I hope, we will see in the other forum soon.

Please continue this conversation via PM.

The thread is for discussion of the topic.

Firinne Gile said:

@Annatar, I would like to say that my thread about Annatar's arrive has been deleted and all conversations will no longer be visible.

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Deleting complete threads where many people with different opinions had invested a lot of time and emotions is of course an absolute no-go.
There should be other options for the moderators. So now it looks like all people who criticize the series are muzzled here as soon as the other side (joined by the moderators) runs out of arguments. I've had enough of that.
See you at theonering.com, thanks for the tip.

Firinne Gile said:

I would just like to register the hundreds of messages in their respective languages that are being sent in the trailers of the Amazon series from several countries with the phrase: “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good” - JRR Tolkien. At the moment most of the messages are from Russian viewers and secondly Americans. This is not just a conscious and subconscious phrase to reflect what people are feeling and seeing, but to numerically record the huge amount of people who are not approving of Amazon's investment. Here are some pictures of the comments shown at the top that can be found at the bottom of the pages. Unlike yesterday, positive comments were drowned out.View attachment 11680
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The Amazon-Serie is a big heap of trash, and a lot of people can already see that in the trailer. It is good, that so much people dislike this horrible serie, which abuse Tolkiens Name for creating a monster.

Annatar said:

Deleting complete threads where many people with different opinions had invested a lot of time and emotions is of course an absolute no-go.
There should be other options for the moderators. So now it looks like all people who criticize the series are muzzled here as soon as the other side (joined by the moderators) runs out of arguments. I've had enough of that.
See you at theonering.com, thanks for the tip.

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On the german website this censorship was also, they locked my account only, because i have critisize this horrible serie.
I am very sad, that here also is such a censorship, that forbits people to say the truth. and the truth is, that all elves and dwarfes in Tolkiens book are white.
So why they forbid us to say the truth here?

Annatar said:

See you at theonering.com, thanks for the tip.

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I'm sure Jonathan Watson, the tweet behind @TORc, will welcome you to TORc with open arms. It used to be a good place for roleplaying twenty years ago. "I was banned for life" from there a couple decades ago. 🤣
Enjoy yourselves!

@Annatar , @Firinne Gile , @LadyGaladriel1980 : just read the site rules. We're all mazzly's guests here, in case you've forgotten. At least Annatar and LadyGaladriel1980 should be familiar with the German term "Hausrecht". A host, in this case mazzly, and those whom he entrusts with keeping order, in this case the moderators, in his "house", here TTF, have every right to enforce those rules, including the right to eviction. End of message.

Firinne Gile said:

I made a new registration. Here everything was fine. Check the information and your email box.

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So, i have tried my registration again, and get this message now:


The administrator has not yet validated your account. You will be notified by e-mail when the account has been validated.

I hope, that my account soon will be validated. I am "GaladrielOfLorien" there.

Olorgando said:

@Annatar , @Firinne Gile , @LadyGaladriel1980 : just read the site rules. We're all mazzly's guests here, in case you've forgotten. At least Annatar and LadyGaladriel1980 should be familiar with the German term "Hausrecht". A host, in this case mazzly, and those whom he entrusts with keeping order, in this case the moderators, in his "house", here TTF, have every right to enforce those rules, including the right to eviction. End of message.

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So this is no democratic site, where people can write free their opinion? So you allow here only wokeness-loving postings?
What a pitty, that the freedom of opinion dont count here.
What is a house worth, if the people who are inside, cant say their opinion free?

Please let the door hit your arses on the way out, you poor dears.

m4r35n357 said:

Please let the door hit your arses on the way out, you poor dears.

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Poor are those ones, who really think, that Amazons big heap of trash is in the sense of Tolkien. Tolkien would have been very shocked and sad, if he could see, what Amazon made of his genious books.

LadyGaladriel1980 said:

Poor are those ones, who really think, that Amazons big heap of trash is in the sense of Tolkien. Tolkien would have been very shocked and sad, if he could see, what Amazon made of his genious books.

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If you think I am one of those then you have only been posting and not reading. QED.

@Firinne Gile, it's a pity that you are going to leave. Why don't you stay with us and post in the threads that are not connected with the series if you don't accept how Amazon is treated here? Personally, I don't like the series but I like TTF. And I have one more point. There is no doubt that it's important to outline the problems that arise with "The Rings of Power", but anti-Pr is a kind of Pr too.

Firinne Gile said:

Do you understand that entire replies and threads are being deleted because admins don't like how users treat the Amazon series @HALETH✒🗡?

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My replies and threads have never been deleted yet, though I don't worship Amazon.
I'm just trying to say that I don't want to lose you and that I'm sure you've got a lot of pleasure thanks to TTF.

No, do YOU understand because replies and threads are being deleted because some of them are becoming borderline racist, not that I really think anyone here is actually racist. Criticizing the series is fine, talking about the plot being stupid or wrong is fine, saying that you don't like the story that a characters being given, such as Galadriel, is fine. What's not fine is when you start whining that there's black elves and that black skin is tarnishing Tolkien's works. Maybe he never wrote that there's black elves and Amazon is going to put a stain on people's perception of the books (undeservedly of course) but the point of this forum is to discuss the series's content not the color of the actors' skin and whether the series is politically woke or not. SES and I have posted multiple times about how we have issues with the series and how we know it won't be a perfect Tolkien adaptation (I doubt there ever will be).

Those rules about politics were here on TTF long before the series was ever dreamt of so quit saying you're being censored all of a sudden. We've ALWAYS removed political, religion and inappropriate posts and comments, it didn't just start recently with this series. And locking/deleting threads is the last thing that any of us staff want to do, we want open discussion, within the means of the forum rules but when things get out of hand, we take action at our discretion. This isn't a democracy, we try to be as fair as we can be and respect everyone's opinion, but when it goes too far then we do what we have to. If that's too much to ask, as others stated, you can try your luck on other forums though I've seen similar "censorship" there as well.

Firinne Gile said:

Please quote a comment I made about the actors' skin.

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I didn't call you out specifically for that anywhere in my post, though I do see where the way I worded it could be meant that way and I apologize. What I meant was you're saying we're deleting threads and comments for criticizing the series, we're not. We're locking/deleting threads that go against the forum rules, which have been around long before this series came about.