The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power – Teaser Trailer

[Annatar]

I really hope, that some day maybe Peter Jackson will produce a serie about the Silmarillion...he will do it right and dont destroy the hopes of fans like the amazon producers did.

I absolutely hope not. While Peter Jackson wouldn't do it nearly as badly as Amazon, it would still end up being a pretty unworthy result. I can only hope that the Silmarillion never gets made into a movie or series.

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

I absolutely hope not. While Peter Jackson wouldn't do it nearly as badly as Amazon, it would still end up being a pretty unworthy result. I can only hope that the Silmarillion never gets made into a movie or series.

Well, i guess, Peter Jackson could do even this wonder....the Silmarillion is very impossible to bring into a movie, but i guess, Peter Jackson could create even from a difficult book like the silmarillion a masterpiece.
The amazon serie has nothing from the Silmarillion, i guess, if some of the teenage aged fans of the serie read the Silmarillion, they will be very suprised.

 

[Halasían]

If you're going to offend me, have the decency to mention my name. That's what I'm following on several forums: people who are criticizing Amazon are being offended by the defenders of this initiative as if the criticism was directed at them, not at the producers and because of that they start saying personal insults to the others. This is completely irrational. If you don't have the emotional stability to see people disagreeing with what you think, don't join a forum.

Glad you returned Firinne Gile. Many sign up, few become regulars. I've been hanging around here since 2001. I tried to leave. Sorry to disappoint you in that. Your posts are rather entertaining and have some nice edges in your delivery compared to most of the typical ones of the mindset. I'm going to watch the series, and I'll make judgements on what I see and discuss the show in safe environments. Until then, I'll laugh at the months of posts.

 

[Olorgando]

... I'll make judgements on what I see ...

Hal - you did see that 61-second trailer, didn't you? 🤔

 

[Halasían]

Interact without offending other people. I don't need this, you don't need this, nobody needs this.

🤣 Thanks for that. It has been made pretty clear that there is little point to try and interact with people who have already clearly made their mind up on this subject. Enjoy!

Hal - you did see that 61-second trailer, didn't you? 🤔

Yes I did.

 

[Olorgando]

... little point to try and interact with people who have already clearly made their mind up on this subject ...

Uh-huh. Well, you seem to have made up your mind to watch the series come hell or high water ...

(serious aside: are you being affected by that deluge that's drowning Sydney and environs ... and perhaps more? 😟)

 

[Halasían]

Uh-huh. Well, you seem to have made up your mind to watch the series come hell or high water ...

(serious aside: are you being affected by that deluge that's drowning Sydney and environs ... and perhaps more? 😟)

I don't believe in writing something completely off because a teaser doesn't seem to fit into some pre-conceived box I've created in my mind about what it should be. I've seen the trailer, and nothing in it was a 'dealbreaker' for me so I see no point in getting my panties in a wad over it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On the weather front, we've been fine here in Victoria. Elora's dad is up in North New South Wales and copped a lot of it, but it sounds like he is rather stoic about it. Where we lived before in Brisbane Queensland would have been fine other than that river that liked to form and run through the house during heavy rains.

 

[Halasían]

*Yawn*

 

[Olorgando]

I don't believe in writing something completely off because a teaser doesn't seem to fit into some pre-conceived box I've created in my mind about what it should be. I've seen the trailer, and nothing in it was a 'dealbreaker' for me so I see no point in getting my panties in a wad over it.

Well, first (and I only have this on second-hand information), Amazon seems to have managed to seriously anger the fans of the "Wheel of Time" book series with their TV adaptation. That's track record - apparently not good. Then, Galadriel as a Xena clone? Amazon does not have the rights to the "Silmarillion", and thus to the Fëanorian attack on Swanhaven of the Teleri - and her defense of her maternal relatives (or not quite - JRRT never got his pre-Third-Age concept of Galadriel in a final form). Next, Elrond as a (much too) young "aspiring politician"? POLITICIAN??? Like in the US, or any other western country in the last, I dunno, 40 years??? The snippet they showed made me think rather of a cross between Michael Douglas's portrayal of Gordon Gekko in the 1987 "Wall Street" film and the member - perhaps boss - of some generic youth gang.

I'm all for giving the benefit of the doubt where it is reasonably applicable. I just have the feeling that the Bezos company is, at very best, in a gray zone here. That "Superfan" clip has me thinking they do not qualify for even "reasonable doubt" in the least.

 

[Halasían]

Well, first (and I only have this on second-hand information), Amazon seems to have managed to seriously anger the fans of the "Wheel of Time" book series with their TV adaptation. That's track record - apparently not good. Then, Galadriel as a Xena clone? Amazon does not have the rights to the "Silmarillion", and thus to the Fëanorian attack on Swanhaven of the Teleri - and her defense of her maternal relatives (or not quite - JRRT never got his pre-Third-Age concept of Galadriel in a final form). Next, Elrond as a (much too) young "aspiring politician"? POLITICIAN??? Like in the US, or any other western country in the last, I dunno, 40 years??? The snippet they showed made me think rather of a cross between Michael Douglas's portrayal of Gordon Gekko in the 1987 "Wall Street" film and the member - perhaps boss - of some generic youth gang.

I'm all for giving the benefit of the doubt where it is reasonably applicable. I just have the feeling that the Bezos company is, at very best, in a gray zone here. That "Superfan" clip has me thinking they do not qualify for even "reasonable doubt" in the least.

Ok.
After the Peter Jackson rape of Lord of the Rings, a full book mind you, the mold was cast to pretty much make up what you want when there is source content, let alone incomplete parts of story. Like I said before and in multiple places, I'm willing to give them a wide berth here, and nothing I saw in that snippet has really gone beyond anything worse than 'elves in Helms Deep' or 'lunatic Denethor' territory. The whole 'Armoured Galadriel' thing is clearly a hat-tip to Peter Jackson's vision.... in case anyone forgot....

Edit: this has gone on over a page so I won't bump it In response to #'s post below mine.
I replaced my original word 'trashed' with 'rape' because I just knew it would be the one thing focused on. Hook. Line. Sinker.
🤣

 

[m4r35n357]

Shut up and take my money!

After the Peter Jackson rape of Lord of the Rings, a full book mind you, the mold was cast to pretty

Is that "rape" as in theft (rape of the Silmarils) or as in sexual assault? I'm not sure either applies here . . .

 

[ZehnWaters]

That "Superfan" clip has me thinking they do not qualify for even "reasonable doubt" in the least.

It really was...awful.

Ok.
After the Peter Jackson rape of Lord of the Rings, a full book mind you... and nothing I saw in that snippet has really gone beyond anything worse than 'elves in Helms Deep' or 'lunatic Denethor' territory.

While those (and the Ents deciding against fighting Saruman) are truly horrible, they are much smaller changes compared to the setting level changes that this series seems to be making. Agree to disagree I guess.

Speaking of Galadriel, Warrior Princess, here's a pic someone did of that concept a while back by Sara M. Morello:

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

Ok.
After the Peter Jackson rape of Lord of the Rings, a full book mind you, the mold was cast to pretty much make up what you want when there is source content, let alone incomplete parts of story. Like I said before and in multiple places, I'm willing to give them a wide berth here, and nothing I saw in that snippet has really gone beyond anything worse than 'elves in Helms Deep' or 'lunatic Denethor' territory. The whole 'Armoured Galadriel' thing is clearly a hat-tip to Peter Jackson's vision.... in case anyone forgot....


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Peter Jackson shows Galadriel in a way, from which i think, Tolkien would have totally love it, if he could see it.
Peter Jackson would never have shown Galadriel as a brainless warrior princess, which only has the goal to chase and kill Orks. Galadriel is wise, brave, good, and she is not someone who fight with a sword in a "Xena"-way.
i am shocked what they do in the serie with Galadriel.....they make a second Daenerys of her.....that is not Tolkiens Galadriel.

It really was...awful.


While those (and the Ents deciding against fighting Saruman) are truly horrible, they are much smaller changes compared to the setting level changes that this series seems to be making. Agree to disagree I guess.

Speaking of Galadriel, Warrior Princess, here's a pic someone did of that concept a while back by Sara M. Morello:
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What a horrible picture, i totally dislike it,to see Galadriel as a warrior princess with could eyes in armor. 🥶
I prefer to see Galadriel like this:

I think, that fits perfect to Galadriel, i dont think, that she is a warrior princess, like some pictures and the serie show her. I dont think, Tolkien had saw her as a warrior.

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

Really horrible, it looks like those betrayed women who want to kill their boyfriends. I also prefer classic illustrations.

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Really horrible, it looks like those betrayed women who want to kill their boyfriends. I also prefer classic illustrations.

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Very beautiful pictures....the third i know, it is from the illustrated version of "Lord of the Rings"; which i read again and again and this is my favorite illustration in the book💕

I guess, Tolkien was inspired by the "Túatha de Danann", the elves from ancient irish-celtic legends, which looked like this:

And i guess, the producers of the Amazon Series was inspired more by this: 😭😢

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

No, they are not. Xena at least has personality and was very beautiful.
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Poor Morfydd has no personality and is completely disheveled and without spirit. Their inspiration for "Galadriel" is someone else, the typical arrogant and unloved modern heroines without any femininity and with a rude behavior.

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Yes, that is really horrible...that the producers of the series use Marvel Movies(which i all totally dislike) as inspiration 🥶

Or maybe this woman from "Thor Part 3" was their inspiration? A real horrible movie....believe me, it is not worth to watch....Thor in space...with space ships...totally absurd.
Why does every producers of our days think, that a woman need a sword in the hands to show emanzipation?
I really cant understand this.

And even in Children movies they bring such "the warrior woman with the sword" thing:

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

A woman's greatest power is and will always be convincing through calm, powerful words and sweet, kind and charming behavior.

Yes, that is very true

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

There is even a dialogue between Galadriel and Celeborn and she convinces her husband with wisdom and not brutality. But you see, the modern incentive is for women to behave like bad men, not even the good kind.

Yes, Galadriels biggest strenght is her wisdom, and in Tolkiens Middle Earth, she had never a sword i her hand.
This horrible serie is made for Marvel Fans in Teenage age. And they give the warrior princess Galadriel this braid, because that reminds the young Teenage girl on their latest Idol, ice queen Elsa.
Galadriels eyes are so icy cold in this serie, i totally dislike that, there is not the warm expression i can see in her eyes in Peter Jacksons movies.
And Galadriel would never take a sword and guiding an army to go killing a lot of Orks. Even when the Orks did harm to her daughter, she didnt do that revenge. I dont like the angryness and hate, which the Amazon-Galadriel radiate. For me that is a reason to not watcht the serie.
And in the serie there is the star-symbol of Feanor, Galadriels uncle, on her armor.
And that is totally absurd, because in the Silmarillion you could read, that Galadriel can see in the heart of her uncle a lot of malice, and dislike him very much....and he was the only one or her relatives, which was not allowed to touch her hair.
It is totally impossible, that she fights in his name in his armor, because she didnt like him and his war ambitions.

The Amazon-Galadriel looks like Ice Queen Fans on a Cosplay:

 

[Halasían]

Yes, Galadriels biggest strenght is her wisdom, and in Tolkiens Middle Earth, she had never a sword i her hand.
This horrible serie is made for Marvel Fans in Teenage age. And they give the warrior princess Galadriel this braid, because that reminds the young Teenage girl on their latest Idol, ice queen Elsa.
Galadriels eyes are so icy cold in this serie, i totally dislike that, there is not the warm expression i can see in her eyes in Peter Jacksons movies.
And Galadriel would never take a sword and guiding an army to go killing a lot of Orks. Even when the Orks did harm to her daughter, she didnt do that revenge. I dont like the angryness and hate, which the Amazon-Galadriel radiate. For me that is a reason to not watcht the serie.
And in the serie there is the star-symbol of Feanor, Galadriels uncle, on her armor.
And that is totally absurd, because in the Silmarillion you could read, that Galadriel can see in the heart of her uncle a lot of malice, and dislike him very much....and he was the only one or her relatives, which was not allowed to touch her hair.
It is totally impossible, that she fights in his name in his armor, because she didnt like him and his war ambitions.

The Amazon-Galadriel looks like Ice Queen Fans on a Cosplay:

Nice artwork!

Speaking of Galadriel, what happened The Moon Man and his many dissertations on how Galadriel was Tolkien's worst character?

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

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It doesn't look like it, it's impressively the same. It's sad how they reduced Galadriel to an angry teenager with no soul in her eyes, just like the new Tiktok generation. Dark times where people with so much money and power destroy everything they see ahead like wretched Orcs.

They made a Galadriel for teenagers, which have watched the Ice Queen in cinemas a few years ago....not for Tolkiens Fans. The Amazon Galadriel has no soul, no personality, no charisma...it is just another fighting warrior woman, like already exist in a lot of movies....they are all interchangeable because they are so similar. There is nothing from the wise, peaceful, charming Galadriel we Tolkienfans love so much.
No one will remember the Amazon Serie in 100 years, it will be long forgotten then, but people will know und love still Tolkiens books and Peter Jacksons movies in 100 years.

And i found this, picture, it seems, that it is also from the Series:

Here Galadriel again has this horrible ice cold eyes, and she is in the water.....what does she do there? Will she have Sex in the water? Or is she swimming to another battlefield?
This serie is so disgusting....they spit totally on the Galadriel, that Tolkien had created.
This cold eyes...she always look so creey cold and her eyes are full of anger and hate....

Or maybe this scene show the fall of Numenor(where Galadriel wasnt at the Silmarillion)?

I can only say one thing to that: The Amazon Galadriel is not my Galadriel! Tolkiens Galadriel ist the Galadriel i love and admire. And..Peter Jacksons Galadriel of course.

 

[LadyGaladriel1980]

@Annatar, I would like to say that my thread about Annatar's arrive has been deleted and all conversations will no longer be visible. Censorship started here too and that's why I'll be leaving the forum. I will only return if it is possible and very necessary. Thank you for your messages and I congratulate you on your way of thinking. I'm disappointed in how things are resolved here without any respect and consideration for the user.

Yes, a lot of my postings have been deleted, only because i have written, that i am totally angry, that the Amazon-producers represent elves and dwarfes in the absolutely wrong way(you all know, what i mean, but the moderators dont allow me to write what i mean)
For me elves and dwarfes must look like Tolkien describe then, and not very very very very different from that
It is really sad, that nowhere is allowed to critisize this big heap of trash, that Amazon produce with abuse Tolkiens Name for something, that is not Tolkiens work and not in Tolkiens sense.
And please, dont go, if you go, the censorship will win. I will not stop to critisize this horrible serie, it is necessary, that fans say openly, how much they despise this heap of cheap trash, that Amazon produces there.
This serie will be like beeing in school and have a day with very, very, boring teachers.
This serie will be a big fail, i am sure, they will stop it after season 2, it will end like "Wheel of time" a totally fail.