The power of 👁️Sauron, and: what would you do with the Ring?

[Celebthôl]

2 questions

1) How did sauron have so much power, i mean y did the istarí have that ammount of power after all they are maiar aswell and how did the ring contain all that power? i mean didn't sauron have that much power in the first place and would have saved a lot of trouble by not making it (although this would have meant that the best book in the world would never have been written)
2) if you had the ring realisticly what would you do with it?

Celeb

 

[Thorin]

Re: 2 questions

Originally posted by Celebthôl
1) How did sauron have so much power, i mean y did the istarí have that ammount of power after all they are maiar aswell and how did the ring contain all that power? i mean didn't sauron have that much power in the first place...Celeb

Morgoth, Sauron's master, was the most powerful Vala. Sauron inherited all Morgoth's domain and his evil. He ruled ME for millenia until the Valar stepped in. When Sauron took over, he became the most powerful being on ME. When he made the ring, he made it to rule over all the other rings the elves made....He put much of his power into the ring to do this...Hence, when the ring was destroyed, so was Sauron's power over ME....

 

[Celebthôl]

oh wot so morgoths evil power got passed to sauron and that is how he got so powerful?! which he the passed into the ring

 

[LadyGaladriel]

Sauron poured all his malice and spite into the ring.

 

[gate7ole]

1.The main purpose of Sauron was to control the elves of ME. She perceived that this would only be done by cunning, since many elves (Galadriel, Elrond) didn't trust him at the beggining (like Celembrimbor did). So, he made the plan to rule them using a Ruling Ring. That ring should have immense powers and it could only be done by sacrifising a part of himself. Also, his prode wouldn't let him be afraid that he would ever lose this ring. Thus, he comlpeted the plan and made such a powerful object (which in the end was his bane).
As for Sauron's great powers, Thorin correctly said that he had Morgoth for teacher. I would add Aule to his teachers, since Aule had taught him many things before he was corrupted. He was a great Maia, very close to the lesser Valar. Gandalf and Saruman were much lesser spirits.
2.Knowing the terrible effects of the ring I would never use it... Maybe only once to have fun with my friends

 

[Ceorl]

In the beginning, before he was corrupted, sauron was: "A mighty Maia of Aulë."

He then learned much from Morgoth, and became powerful in his own fashion.

Sauron poured much of his power into his ring; even if he didn't wear it, the power was still his and he could use it, unless the ring were mastered by another; which he deemed couldn't happen before he found out and took it back. However when he was wearing the Ring, he has his own power that he put in the Ring, as well as the power of all the rings that the master controlled.

That is why he was destroyed when the ring was melted; a large part of his power (that he had been using) was destroyed.

 

[Lantarion]

Ah, but would Sauron himself be completely destroyed if only a part of his powers were also destroyed?
I think a bond was created between his own natural energies and those which he stored into the Ring, and so by destroying one end of the bond it was shattered, and Sauron could no longer harness any remaining powers; he was become too weak.

Sauron had significantly more 'power', because he was a Maia of higher order. He was a "Great Maia of Aulë", and must have learned a great deal both from Aulë and from Melkor. But the Istari were spirits, little greater than the 'normal' Maiar wandering about in Aman, I'd say; this was so that it could be ensured that they could not govern the wills of others in order to wreak havoc over Middle-Earth, the place they were sent to protect. Saruman would have inevitably failed in his pompous and proud attempts, because his spirit was not strong enough to face Sauron; which he would have had to do in the end, to gain the mastery.
I also think that Sauron's greater powers were enhanced further by the Ring, because as this hypothetical bond was formed between him and his Ring, I think that the Ring magically enhanced the powers within it; and as the two were linked, Sauron's power grew with the power within the RIng. Get it?

Heh, and no i wouldn't use the Ring; at least I'd try not to, but I can't say whether I could resist its vile call..