The Riddle Thread

Goldilocks Gamgee · Aug 3, 2022

Well-aged Enting said:
Well. Not to be hasty, but I would guess a fishing lure.
When you need it you throw it away from you on a fishing line.
When you don't need it you raise it out of the water to the pole and attach it, and there it sits.

Haleth's riddle has already been answered, by EA. The answer is an anchor.

Goldilocks Gamgee · Aug 3, 2022

Vilisse said:
First things first: how is it a room, if it's devoid of doors and windows?

That's the point of the riddle. If it was logical, it would be way too easy.

Erestor Arcamen said:
A mirror?

Nope. Um, why would it be a mirror? I don't really see how you came to that conclusion.

Erestor Arcamen · Aug 3, 2022

Goldilocks Gamgee said:
That's the point of the riddle. If it was logical, it would be way too easy.

Nope. Um, why would it be a mirror? I don't really see how you came to that conclusion.

I figured that a mirror shows a room with reflections of doors and windows. The people can't actually leave unless you leave through the real door. Probably thinking too hard on it 😅 .

A chatroom could fit too maybe? Full of people but no doors or windows.

Ent · Aug 3, 2022

Goldilocks Gamgee said:
Haleth's riddle has already been answered, by EA. The answer is an anchor.

oops somehow i missed that.
An anchor is good.

HALETH✒🗡 · Aug 3, 2022

Well-aged Enting said:
Well. Not to be hasty, but I would guess a fishing lure.
When you need it you throw it away from you on a fishing line.
When you don't need it you raise it out of the water to the pole and attach it, and there it sits.

It's supposed to be an anchor but your answer makes sense too.

Ent · Aug 3, 2022

HALETH✒🗡 said:
It's supposed to be an anchor but your answer makes sense too.

I suppose a few answers could. with enough pondering.
Though I fished when I was young, and did indeed 'throw an anchor away from me', they were still heavy and didn't go very far.
And the first 'anchors' that come to mind for me are the great huge ones on the boats on the seas, and few can even lift those.

And I recall some of the older Ents saying "throw the oars in the water" when it was time to row away.
Yet they raised them from the water when they were no longer needed.

In any event, it's a nice riddle and took me some time to think of anything suitable...

I may need to visit this thread more regularly. Probably a good thing for an aging brain.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Aug 3, 2022

Goldilocks Gamgee said:
Here's another Russian riddle:

Without doors and without windows,
Yet the room is full of people.
What is it?

The world? (Present-day Middle-Earth)

Might be a stretch, but...

Goldilocks Gamgee · Aug 3, 2022

Elbereth Vala Varda said:
The world? (Present-day Middle-Earth)

Might be a stretch, but...

Erestor Arcamen said:
A chatroom could fit too maybe? Full of people but no doors or windows.

No... here's a hint: it's edible.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Aug 3, 2022

Goldilocks Gamgee said:
No... here's a hint: it's edible.

It couldn't be a mushroom, since there are no people in a mushroom, right?

To be clear: It's Russian, but Russian isn't needed to solve it-- correct?

Goldilocks Gamgee · Aug 3, 2022

Elbereth Vala Varda said:
It couldn't be a mushroom, since there are no people in a mushroom, right?

To be clear: It's Russian, but Russian isn't needed to solve it-- correct?

It is not a mushroom, and there is no Russian needed to solve it.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Aug 4, 2022

Goldilocks Gamgee said:
It is not a mushroom, and there is no Russian needed to solve it.

Hmm... Air?

Goldilocks Gamgee · Aug 4, 2022

Elbereth Vala Varda said:
Hmm... Air?

That could fit the definition, but no. I don't think air is edible, either.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Aug 4, 2022

Goldilocks Gamgee said:
That could fit the definition, but no. I don't think air is edible, either.

Sure, air is edible. You inhale and consume it, don't you?

Áramandë Amaniel · Aug 4, 2022

Elbereth Vala Varda said:
Sure, air is edible. You inhale and consume it, don't you?

*Whispers*

Especially true for the Ainur...and e'en truer for those closer to Manwe, like us!

HALETH✒🗡 · Aug 4, 2022

Well-aged Enting said:
Well. Not to be hasty, but I would guess a fishing lure.
When you need it you throw it away from you on a fishing line.
When you don't need it you raise it out of the water to the pole and attach it, and there it sits.

While trying to fall asleep last night, I figured out why I had never thought about a fishing lure before. In the Russian version of the riddle the pronoun shows that the object is masculine. This fact has been lost in translation of the riddle into English. In Russian an anchor is masculine and a fishing lure is feminine.

Goldilocks Gamgee · Aug 4, 2022

HALETH✒🗡 said:
While trying to fall asleep last night, I figured out why I had never thought about a fishing lure before. In the Russian version of the riddle the pronoun shows that the object is masculine. This fact has been lost in translation of the riddle into English. In Russian an anchor is masculine and a fishing lure is feminine.

Do you think this could mean that riddles are easier to solve in gendered languages, as it can sorts out some of the words?

Ent · Aug 4, 2022

HALETH✒🗡 said:
While trying to fall asleep last night, I figured out why I had never thought about a fishing lure before. In the Russian version of the riddle the pronoun shows that the object is masculine. This fact has been lost in translation of the riddle into English. In Russian an anchor is masculine and a fishing lure is feminine.

AHA. And the superiority of truly 'well designed' languages once again demonstrates the absurdities of the English language, and its laxness in accurately communicating most things at a true 'detail' level.

More similar to Hebrew and Greek is Russian, in that element at least, then. I did not know that.

Thank you.

HALETH✒🗡 · Aug 4, 2022

Goldilocks Gamgee said:
Do you think this could mean that riddles are easier to solve in gendered languages, as it can sorts out some of the words?

Yeah, maybe it's easier. Good idea!

Well-aged Enting said:
AHA. And the superiority of truly 'well designed' languages once again demonstrates the absurdities of the English language, and its laxness in accurately communicating most things at a true 'detail' level.

More similar to Hebrew and Greek is Russian, in that element at least, then. I did not know that.

Thank you.

Thanks! I love my native language but I enjoy learning English too.

Goldilocks Gamgee · Aug 4, 2022

Well-aged Enting said:
AHA. And the superiority of truly 'well designed' languages once again demonstrates the absurdities of the English language, and its laxness in accurately communicating most things at a true 'detail' level.

More similar to Hebrew and Greek is Russian, in that element at least, then. I did not know that.

Thank you.

Russian is very similar to Greek, actually. We stole a lot of Greek for our Cyrillic alphabet, as Cyrill (the guy who invented the Cyrillic alphabet) was from Greece.

TrollinSun · Aug 13, 2022

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Yet inspired valor upon the land,
Wet from both man and river,
Yet I was carried like a quiver.

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