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Found out this is true, which is amazing

In addition in a house three doors away dwells a member of a group of
young men who are evidently aiming to turn themselves into a Beatle Group. On days when it falls
to his turn to have a practice session the noise is indescribable.....

The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien - Letter 257 to Christopher Bretherton, 16 July 1964

Olorgando · Jul 22, 2021

Erestor Arcamen said:
Found out this is true, which is amazing

In addition in a house three doors away dwells a member of a group of young men who are evidently aiming to turn themselves into a Beatle Group. On days when it falls to his turn to have a practice session the noise is indescribable.....

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The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien - Letter 257 to Christopher Bretherton, 16 July 1964

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Your quote of letter 257 is true, EA. What "tilthat" and "robstmartin" posted is balderdash, rubbish!
JRRT in 1964 lived in Oxford, the Beatles in London. Neither ever moved within dozens of miles of each other at any time.
The young man (unnamed) mentioned was the member of a group of Beatles-wannabes.
And note that JRRT wrote Beatle - used only when referring to one of the Fab Four as a member of the group in singular, the Group name is in plural.
That JRRT may also not (very likely not) have approved of the music the Beatles themselves made - and note this is still about three years before Sgt. Pepper! still in their "yeah, yeah, yeah phase", so to speak - would not surprise me. But that JRRT and the Beatles themselves once lived quite close to each other in Oxford is, to repeat myself, balderdash and rubbish.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jul 22, 2021

I don't know about a Kubrick connection, but I recall reading an interview with Ringo in Life magazine, back in the 60's, in which he was practically begging any filmmakers considering a film to cast him as Sam.

I think he could have done a creditable job of it. 😊

Ealdwyn · Jul 22, 2021

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
I don't know about a Kubrick connection, but I recall reading an interview with Ringo in Life magazine, back in the 60's, in which he was practically begging any filmmakers considering a film to cast him as Sam.

I think he could have done a creditable job of it. 😊

A scouse Sam? Works for me.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jul 22, 2021

We should ask EA if he'd have preferred a yinzer. 😂

Olorgando · Jul 22, 2021

Both the Liverpudlian scouse accent and the yinzer one of Pittsburgh appear to be much too recent (post-WW II, even way post!) to be credible for any JRRT character. But considering what PJ perpetrated, all bets are off when it comes to screens large and small, I guess.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jul 22, 2021

True enough -- although I confess I always did think of Dwarves as Scotsmen. 😁

Olorgando · Jul 22, 2021

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
True enough -- although I confess I always did think of Dwarves as Scotsmen. 😁

Well, JRRT made it quite clear that he "stole" his Dwarves from the "Dvergatal" in the poem "Völuspá" of the Elder or Poetic Edda. But from what a Scottish adviser to one of the projects I was involved in with the company told me, Norse influence lingered longest in Scotland of all parts of the British Isles. No wonder, with that short hop over from Norway ...

Ealdwyn · Jul 22, 2021

Olorgando said:
Both the Liverpudlian scouse accent and the yinzer one of Pittsburgh appear to be much too recent (post-WW II, even way post!) to be credible for any JRRT character. But considering what PJ perpetrated, all bets are off when it comes to screens large and small, I guess.

If PJ saw fit to have a Mancunian hobbit then we can certainly have a Scouse one.

Olorgando · Jul 22, 2021

Ealdwyn said:
If PJ saw fit to have a Mancunian hobbit then we can certainly have a Scouse one.

PJ, bah, humbug! (btw which Hobbit in the six films would that be?)
Hobbits would be, most likely, from the outskirts of Birmingham, specifically Sarehole and environs.

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