The Valar If 👁️sauron won

[John]

Hi
What Would The Valar Have Done If Sauron Won The War Of The Ring? Would They Have Helped Out Against Sauron Like With Morgoth? If Not Why? If Yes Why And How? Also How Did Manwe And Varda Get News Of The Events In Middle Earth After Eru Removed The Undying Lands From The World?

 

[ZehnWaters]

If Eru hadn't intervened and sent an empowered Gandalf back Sauron WOULD have won. What they would have done then? I don't know. They might have simply done away with subtlety and sent Tulkas and Eönwë to retrieve the wayward Maia.

 

[1stvermont]

Hi
What Would The Valar Have Done If Sauron Won The War Of The Ring? Would They Have Helped Out Against Sauron Like With Morgoth? If Not Why? If Yes Why And How? Also How Did Manwe And Varda Get News Of The Events In Middle Earth After Eru Removed The Undying Lands From The World?

I gave an in-depth response to this a few weeks back on this forum I am looking for the thread know to link to it. It is proving difficult at the moment.

In summary, I do not think the Valar would have acted for many reasons even if Sauron had one the war of the ring.

 

[Olorgando]

Sooooo ... any suggestions on what to call this revisionist tale?
Whatever it would be, one thing it's definitely is not - JRRT's The Lord of the Rings. 😑

 

[ZehnWaters]

Sooooo ... any suggestions on what to call this revisionist tale?
Whatever it would be, one thing it's definitely is not - JRRT's The Lord of the Rings. 😑

Well, yeah. That's the point of Thought Experiments, Revisionist Storytelling, and Alternate Universes.

 

[Olorgando]

We're in the sub-forum "The Works of J.R.R. Tolkien", discussing his works.
I've been scolded for bringing up film points in book threads and vice versa.
As we don't seem to have a fanfic sub-forum here as was the case in at least another site, this kind of stuff would seem to belong to "Bars & Inns" - or in a new sub-forum to be created.

 

[ZehnWaters]

We're in the sub-forum "The Works of J.R.R. Tolkien", discussing his works.
I've been scolded for bringing up film points in book threads and vice versa.
As we don't seem to have a fanfic sub-forum here as was the case in at least another site, this kind of stuff would seem to belong to "Bars & Inns" - or in a new sub-forum to be created.

Ah, fair enough. Is there someway to move threads?

 

[Olorgando]

Ah, fair enough. Is there someway to move threads?

Now that's a question I can answer! The mods! In fact, they (relatively) often merge threads, especially if newer ones (mostly) rehash stuff that's been gone over under a different thread title; they seem (mostly) to hesitate from necro-modding, like saying "hey, we can merge this with that thread from 2003!"

So, @Squint-eyed Southerner , @Erestor Arcamen ?

 

[Alcuin]

Glittering Caves. This is a good thread for The Glittering Caves forum, along with John’s “What if Sauron Won?” thread and other Alternative Universe, “what-if” subjects.