Berzelmayr
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Wonder what Dandelion's whispering about 😆
If that is supposed to be Sauron's hand, it must be a film version. In the book, Isildur cuts off one finger, the one the One Ring is on, while in the film Isildur swipes an Sauron's hand reaching for him, lopping off several fingers (though I forget how many went flying). Here it looks like three fingers are "incomplete" ...
Good point. Furthermore, wouldn't Sauron not have a hand at all? How would he be able to take form like that without the One Ring, since we must assume from the context that he does not have the One Ring in this piece of art.If that is supposed to be Sauron's hand, it must be a film version. In the book, Isildur cuts off one finger, the one the One Ring is on, while in the film Isildur swipes an Sauron's hand reaching for him, lopping off several fingers (though I forget how many went flying). Here it looks like three fingers are "incomplete" ...
True! (As much as I love those films, they have some serious issues with canon) But in both books and films, I don't think that he would be able to have a hand outstretched. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt that in this artwork it could be an Orc, since I don't think Sauron himself would stoop to the level of torturing Gollum personally, and also because of the fingers and hand. But, I don't know. It may have been intended as Sauron.Even better point! In the film he's a giant searchlight in the form of a badly inflamed eye on top of Barad-dûr! 😁
*scratches head*But in both books and films, I don't think that he would be able to have a hand outstretched.
Gollum does say that Sauron only has nine fingers, but I'm not sure where in the book it is.*scratches head*
I have this vague memory of Gollum telling Frodo and Sam, in Book Four aka the second half of Two Towers, that Sauron, whom he must then have met face-to-face, only had nine fingers. This would be a case for someone with a text-searchable file version of TT to scour for. At least today I don't have the nerve to do that kind of digging through the wood-pulp text (I gave the index a try, but found nothing pointing to my suspicion).
I just had this other thought: since Sauron apparently had to rebuild his bodily form from scratch in the Third Age - couldn't he have "repaired" the missing finger??? 🤔
We must remember what we read in The Council of Elrond. Sauron began to "take shape" again in the south of Mirkwood, back in the times of Bilbo's journey, before he was driven from there.How would he be able to take form like that without the One Ring,