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Discussion Twilight Amidst the Everlasting Darkness: Discussion

Yayyy, another chapter! I was pleasantly surprised to see this notification pop up this morning. :3

...Many emotions were stirred up by this one. What a coincidence that it happens to have a significant focus on Maedhros' recovery from Thangorodrim, and the lingering effects of his torment. Much like the drawing I most recently completed. 🙃 Our poor Nelyo is going through it this month!

First of all, phew. I too am glad they were successfully able to find and administer the antidote. Everyone needs a rest now. >_< It's been a lot for all of them to handle.


...Kitten Juice!

And indeed, it seems to be a constant problem throughout Maitimo's life that he and Aranya are inconveniently separated by ill chances and strange fates. >:I
... 🥁


Same, honestly.
Me when reading about potential side effects of strong medicines: no thank u, I'd rather suffer 🫡


Oof. *screws face up*
That part hit me for some reason. I'm like... why do I know what that kind of situation is like? From both Maitimo's perspective and that of the others? And the 'pretending' part in particular. I have some guesses, but probably better not to think too hard about it. I do seem to have some weird gaps in my memory that aren't just 'I forgot, cause it was a long time ago', but rather reject my attempts to reach them. And probably for a good reason.

It's an effective way of showing what that period of time in Maitimo's life was like. It shows it very impactfully in such a short/brief scene. 😞


Ah, come on now bro. Just because you are able to, doesn't necessarily mean it's the best thing.
And like... "two days". You can't measure the severity of your situation solely with mere length of time! You briefly died, bruh. I think they'd expect you to feel bad, and want to help you. Especially as in some ways, the torment on Thangorodrim and the recovery from it has in fact made you more sensitive and reduced your tolerance for some things ('but the shadow of his pain was in his heart...').
You're not tough all through, and you still need help sometimes, even if it's understandably hard to believe that others could possibly be able to give it, thanks to your terribly unfortunate experiences during your recovery (e.g. in that particular intruding memory quoted above).


Poor soft-hearted Tyelko. 🥺

His emotions are too great, his thoughts are in disarray, and he cannot face his dear brother long enough to be able to help him in some way. And he blames himself for not rescuing his brother, which is an additional uncomfortable weight, driving the thorns of his distress deeper.


I wonder what Tyelko fears so much about telling Maitimo that he witnessed him having nightmares. Perhaps he doesn't want Maitimo to know that he was visiting him only when he was asleep/unconscious, because it might hurt his feelings or make him feel bad about things he had no control over? And maybe there is shame that he didn't stay there to help Maitimo himself after the nightmares.


*pat pats bro's overactive anxious brain*

Maedhros doesn't stop Maedhrosing... even when his body isn't working properly. 🫠


Ooh... 😬 That part's a bit uncomfortable to read, after what we've just learned about Tyelko's feelings and actions during Maitimo's recovery.


...A relatable thought process there. The truth is better for you than anything else, but it can be a hard thing to face. And indeed, regarding many things, 'there but for the grace of God go I'.


Now poor Tyelko's self-doubt is creeping in again, his feelings of being 'no-one's favourite', of not being good enough, of being hard to live with... 🥺


Oh no...
Wish I could comfort Tyelko now. It is no fault of his that he is not who Maitimo would prefer during a time like this. It is simply due to the way different people's personalities interact with each other. There are definitely many situations where Curvo would be most reassured by Tyelko's presence, rather than anyone else. And it is no failure of anyone else in the family that Curvo in Valinor usually preferred to go to Fëanor for comfort and advice. No one person can get along perfectly with everyone at all times. But Tyelko is discouraged by the fact that his presence is, more often than not, less appreciated than that of others. 🥺


Ah... and this chapter ends on a somewhat tense emotional note. From this, I suspect that things will not get easier on the emotional front, and further complications will arise. But poor Maitimo doesn't have the brain to deal with it, even if he wants to. He needs rest. *gives bro a little gentle hug*
 
I recently read the whole story here, and I wish to congratulate @Tyelkormo the Fair and @Maedhros_Nelyafinwë for how well you did on this story. The work in editing and writing this RP/Story was certainly worth it! I appreciate how the story has some humorous parts in the story; it made it more enjoyable than it already was and showed the love that Maitimo had for Aredhel and Lomion. When Aredhel called Maitimo a "Big stupid carrot-top", I burst out laughing so hard that I think my throat was sore afterwards 🤣. I also enjoyed how caring and loving that Tyelko was to Maitimo and Aredhel, and how he was desperately running all over the place trying so hard to help Maitimo and not let him die, that part was simply very touching.

I like that this story gives Eol more detail in personality, showing who he really could have been, and what he could have done if things had gone differently. Tolkien did not describe what Eol actually did to Lomion and Arehel, so I enjoy this story shows Eol for what he likely was, instead of leaving him to simply be known as a "not very nice" person. Lomion's life must have been so shattered by everything that happened to him, so I am glad he gets a parent who will try to rebuild his life for him and be as kind as his mother was to him. That part seemed happy to me, that Maeglin would get Maedhros as a parent.

Good work on writing this story! It is very touching, very well written, and incredible overall, especially for not being completely cannon. Aredhel was exactly as one would imagine her, Eol and Lomion as well. Huan was remarkably written too, so perfect and so sweet to Maitimo when he was cold and injured. I love how that big fluffball was portrayed in this tale. Tyelko was also portrayed very well, and it was touching how the story actually described how Tyelko felt when he saw what happened to his cousin. The story implies he wasn't completely in agreement with the burning of the ships, and that is another detail I really like. Maitimo is well written, all his thoughts, how good and honorable he was being, how kind and gentle he was acting (except when he bashed Eol on the head), it was so Maitimo-like, and that I appreciated. Awesome job! Your work on this was totally worth it! I enjoyed it so much!
 
Sorry it took me so long to reply to these comments!

I'm glad the writing is impactful, but I'm sorry that you've had some unpleasant experiences that allow you to relate to this! 🥺

This really moved me. I wish somebody had thought to tell Maitimo that! But nobody knows exactly what he's thinking about, so they don't know this is a thing he's struggling with.

Weeellll, let's just say there's a certain something to be revealed later. (Much later, unfortunately, but hopefully we'll get to it one of these days.)

*pat pats bro's overactive anxious brain*

Maedhros doesn't stop Maedhrosing... even when his body isn't working properly. 🫠
Indeed. This is an example of me putting aspects of myself into his character. The Brain never shuts up!

Ooh... 😬 That part's a bit uncomfortable to read, after what we've just learned about Tyelko's feelings and actions during Maitimo's recovery.
Yeah, this story is kind of interesting because it was my first RP after Fëanoriel, and it was the first writing project that helped me explore Celegorm in a more positive light. (As opposed to him being part of Curufin's plot to kill Maitimo so he never gives away the kingship.) So Madi and I didn't really have a solidified history between Tyelko and Maitimo yet, and hence they haven't always had a very positive relationship. I write them differently now, of course, and I think of TAtED as a somewhat different timeline than IC&SF and all that.

Now poor Tyelko's self-doubt is creeping in again, his feelings of being 'no-one's favourite', of not being good enough, of being hard to live with... 🥺

We love you, Tyelko!! Poor boi deserves a hug!

And again, there is some interesting (and sad) backstory supporting this in this particular timeline.

He needs it! 🥺

I recently read the whole story here, and I wish to congratulate @Tyelkormo the Fair and @Maedhros_Nelyafinwë for how well you did on this story. The work in editing and writing this RP/Story was certainly worth it!
Aww, thank you so much!

Hehe! I think every story, no matter how dark and sad it is, needs a bit of humor. 100% dark and humorless stories are just exhausting. And those lighter moments actually serve to make the heavier moments more impactful.

Yeah, like I said, this story was my first time exploring Tyelko as a Big Softie instead of just the heartless jerk that the fandom characterizes him to be. Big Softie Tyelko is objectively so much better!

Indeed. I think we might be stretching things a bit by making him an abuser, but the book doesn't say he wasn't like that. But even as evil as he is in this story, he still has his own complex personality and motives.

Yes! We affectionately refer to them as Dadtimo and Goth Son, and I love them very much!

Thank you so much for your comments! I'm so glad you've enjoyed the story this much!

I have no idea when we'll next be able to update, but hopefully it won't be a terribly long wait.
 
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