Were the 💀Nazgul kind of weak?

[Anamatar IV]

no youre thinking about the balrog. That had WINGS OF SHADOW.

quote numero dos:

...he threw back his cloak and lo! there was a crown...on nothingness.

 

[Dark_wraith]

but im SURE i read something about wings!!!! Its got something to do with a river too i think......
...........damn i hate bein dumb!!!

i will remember it when i read it and quote ur ass off anamatar!!! lol

 

[Beregond]

Cheers for the welcome.

And of course they had a physical form, it was just invisible!

The only serious reference toTrolls in the Fellowship is near the start, Sam gabbing in the pub with Ted Sandyman I think. Wherever they got the idea to actively involve the Cave Troll in the movie...........(sigh)

 

[Anamatar IV]

i have yet to be outqouted

i know what u talk about. From the fellowship of the ring. A winged creature sahdow over head as the fellowship rested on the shores of the anduin and legolas shot it down. if u are talking bout that u are right. BUT that was the beast of the nazgul.

and of the nazgul being just pants...how about the cry that the hobbits heard in the marish?

Im saying IF the nazgul stabbed aragorn would the same thing happen to their blades? Whats the point of making them if they'll just just disolve if you cut someone.

 

[Dark_wraith]

Oh sorry i though you were saying that the nazgul stabbed aragorn. I suppose that the same would happen and the blade would dissolve but i think it was more because aragorn handled it than cos frodo was stabbed.

The nazul's cry in the movie freaked me out big style!!!!!!!

 

[Anamatar IV]

did they cry in the movie? What scene.

In the book though aragorn didnt touch the knife. It disolved before them.

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[Éomond]

The Nazgul did seem kinda weak in the movie. Aragorn took them all out on the Wheathertop in like 10 seconds each. The only thing they seemed good at was being scary.

 

[Dark_wraith]

Originally posted by Beregond
The only serious reference toTrolls in the Fellowship is near the start

Im telling you there is a mention of super trolls!!!! I read it earlier today!!!!

 

[Anamatar IV]

super trolls? maybe ur talking about the cave troll. Maybe ur talkin about the STONE trolls that the hobbits passed after frodo got stabbed.

 

[Dark_wraith]

i meant like war cry. after they had discovered that the things they stabbed in bree were just bedsheets they all seemed to let out this kinda scream and it freaked me out big style!!!

In all honesty the way the nine are described you wouldnt think aragorn would be able to easily fight one, never mind all of them (although in the book only 5 were at weathertop, the other 4 chasing gandalf).

 

[Dark_wraith]

Im pretty sure it was near to the part where they found the stone trolls but i know for a fact that i am not mistaken!! It is when there is talk of how little english the trolls speak. it may be in the back in the appendices actually.

 

[Anamatar IV]

but aragorn didnt take out the nazgul. This is in the lord of the rings forum so you must mean in the book. In the book the each took a brand and, being afraid of fire, the nazgul ran away.

 

[Beregond]

OK, Ok........................(smile and back away, Beregond).

Sorry, Anamatar IV, but I have here in front of me:

He stooped and lifted up a long thin knife. There was a cold gleam in it. As Strider raised it they saw that near the end its edge was notched and the point was broken off. But even as he held it up in the growing light, they gazed in astonishment, for the blade seemed to melt, and vanished like a smoke in the air, leaving only the hilt in Strider's hand.

 

[Dark_wraith]

woohoo! i was right at last!!! I know that aragorn didnt take out the nazgul but he still fought them back and i wouldnt have thought that 1 of him and 3 little hobbits could scare them away in the dark.

 

[Anamatar IV]

allright fine. Back to the point of this thread... if anything the nazgul were more fearsome in the books.

 

[Beregond]

Definitely, the movie never really made it clear that the Nazgul weren't created to be warriors. The book, on the other hand, made it crystal-like that their chief purpose was to manipulate people (like the Southron in Bree) with fear.

 

[Dark_wraith]

i agree that the nazguls were more fearsome in the book but still i think they did not live up to their reputation. Not like the balrog did anyway.

I was expecting nigh on invincible warriors who were strong as hell and although admittedly they were hard to kill, they were no where close to invincible!!

 

[Beregond]

Personally I thought that, in the movie, the Balrog was too big (although it looked stunning).

 

[Anamatar IV]

Originally posted by Beregond
manipulate people (like the Southron in Bree) with fear.

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Next point in the debate: The southroner was one from sarumans army.

Wraith-there is nothing about trolls in the appendices. Maybe you mean in rotk how treebeard told M and p how trolls were bootleg ents.

 

[Beregond]

From my very limited readings of Unfinished Tales I can confirm the Southron was indeed in the service of Saruman - the Nazgul caught him coming back from Bree after they had crossed the river Isen, if memory serves correctly.