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Additionally, I enjoyed hearing about everyone's works. Admittedly, Ent's are the ones which intrigue me most so far, with David's being a close second and Maedhros' being right up there in third, but I'm grateful to see so many people eager about their work. Looking forward to seeing more as time goes on!

(As I don't know how others may take the above message, I may not have named them, but everyone peaked my interest. Just those three were the ones which particularly smelled intriguing.)
 
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OOPS..... a 'that'. The good news.... it's a 'proper that' not a 'useless that'. 😆
A nice project..! Keep us posted - and thanks for sharing..!!!
Thank you! I'm glad at least it was a proper use of the word, but I shall endeavour to find other means of expressing myself. :}
 
As I don't know how others may take the above message, I may not have named them, but everyone peaked my interest
Ent's personal experience with this group is ... they may be offensive... but they don't take offense. 😆
(Actually, I'm completely and constantly blessed by each and every one of them. I just can't let 'em know.)
 
(Actually, I'm completely and constantly blessed by each and every one of them. I just can't let 'em know.)
Aw, Ent, you’re making me blush! 😂 We’re all more than certainly blessed by you as well, and when the time comes for you to spend more time away as you begin to pursue your own endeavors, we will dearly miss your wonderfully Entish presence. Yet, at the same time, we will join you in your joy for your writings.

May we value all the time we have together. 😊
 
Thank you! I'm glad at least it was a proper use of the word, but I shall endeavour to find other means of expressing myself. :}
Not to worry. You need not be as vehement against its use as am I. The word has a proper use, and is sometimes the shortest way to say a thing. Certainly appropriate in business writing and the like... (as long as 'proper'.)

I'm just overbearing on the subject, as the word is overbearingly used by most.

In fact, the Introduction I wrote for the book I'm currently editing just came back from the editor the Author sends my work to for checking.

Very little change to it, but one great suggestion in the first paragraph/quote. Unfortunately, in suggesting the alternative, the editor inserted two...count them, TWO...'thats' into the text.

Well... suffice it to say the revision was promptly revised (and the rest of the revision/suggestions carefully checked..!)

When my books are done, my target is to have them entirely free of 'that', except as is required due to quoting other authors.

But when I edit others' work, although I eliminate EVERY 'useless that,' if the author is prone to use of the word, I don't take all the 'proper that's' out. It's part of their 'voice'... and I don't intend to change who they are.
 
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I don't take all the 'proper that's' out. It's part of their 'voice'... and I don't intend to change who they are.
That statement made a question pop up in my mind: do you exclusively edit non-fiction?
In fiction, authors can assume a voice not necessarily their own - their own "private" voice - say for the narrator. And as for characters, there might be one who has as a quirk exactly such an overuse of "thats".
I was thinking of one repeated complaint about JRRT's writing by "modernist" authors, his use of what they viewed as archaic language. JRRT could have answered such complaints with a sarcastic "You want some real archaism? How about some Old Mercian?".
 

From the preface to volume II, The House of Finrod in the War of the Ring, a story about a family in Lórien during the year surrounding the War of the Ring:

"We are pleased to present this translation of the second volume of The Secret History of the House of Finrod to the general public. This volume focuses on the period of the War of the Ring and covers a portion of the war in much more detail than The Lord of the Rings (LOTR) does. The entries in the appendices of LOTR relating to the combat in the war covered by this book comprise a minuscule one hundred twenty-two words. We expect those who are enthralled by the world revealed by Professor Tolkien will enjoy the additional information reported by the eyewitnesses to the events."

There's a bit more scattered in the main text of the book about Lórien what the fellowship did whilst there, and a mention of a skirmish where the yrch from Moria who chased the fellowship into Lórien were driven off, but surprisingly little otherwise. A bit more can be gleaned from the maps and appendices about Lórien in general.

Now, personally, I view this as somewhat of a blessing because it gives me a lot of freedom. In my own case, there's the skirmish and 3 battles in Lórien. The Galadhrim cross the Anduin and assault Dol Guldur afterwards. We know the day the battles started. The appendices are silent as to how long they lasted, so I was free to make them larger or smaller. I was able to choose places and situations so each skirmish or battle was very different from the preceding ones.

The same with the culture and mechanics of Galadhrim society. I can extrapolate from known material about other elvish groups but I have a fair bit of freedom to alter them within reason.

As a software developer, when we encounter a situation like this in software we wrote, we explain to the users "It's not a bug, it's a feature!"
So,
 
If I'm understanding you correctly, this is a stance I'm learning to take concerning my story as well. There's remarkably little information of the kind I'm searching for(inhabitants of the region known in the Third Age as Harondor, the kinds of forces Sauron had at his disposal, the whereabouts actions of the Nine until their disappearance, etc.), but it does let me make up what I need, as long as it stays as accurate to the lore as possible.

It's difficult sometimes, convincing myself to do this, but Tolkien didn't write everything and nor should he have been expected to, in my opinion. So we have room to roam. 😁
 
Two things:

1) I wrote a "For Those Who Have Not Read Volume One" chapter to pop into the front of Volume Two. I'll toss it once Volume One is written but it should help beta readers of Volume Two orient themselves to the relevant events in the past that crop up without explanation in Volume Two. Or so I hope!

2) I started off intending to call Volume One in my book series, "Cold War in Arthedain". The main character starts making her mark on the world in the late 1300's of the third age in (you guessed it!) Arthedain. But the best parts of the story, that deserve the most attention, start some 600-700 years later in Gondor or Wilderland after Arthedain was destroyed.. I consider the later parts of the story to be "the main storyline".

Why not just start the story around the year 3A 2000 instead? Funny you should ask! I'm not truly sure what my answer will be.

The story in the 2000s has roots in the 1300s. The events of the preceding centuries made the main character who and what she is. And whilst they did not make the antagonist in the 2000s the person they are, they did motivate the antagonist to strike back at the main character once they are able to.

So, it's essential story information.

I've been revealing bits and pieces of it in the main storyline. Like the fellowship, the characters spend much time travelling on their quest. They have to talk about "something" on their journey, so why not tell stories from the past? The entire fellowship needs to know stories from the past to fill in critical gaps in their knowledge. They can share those tales around the campfire. It's also a great way to slip in some red herrings.

But some things happened to the main character, things the antagonist did to her she never intends to share with ANYONE. Not her champion. Not her husband. Not her children. What she went through was vile and she still feels shame, disgust and anger. Side effects from it have altered key aspects of her behaviour the reader needs to know about but her fellow travellers won't learn (if she can help it).

She also participated in activities which were honourable but clandestine. She is not at liberty to talk about them. So, again, the campfire tale approach won't work.

In the absence of a solution despite much thought given to the problem, I did what I always do. I start writing and see what comes out. Sometimes what I write works as is, at other times the process gives me the write "in" to modify what I've written into a solution. And sometimes it doesn't. Too early to tell with this problem yet!

More on this tomorrow, I just discovered it's 2 hours past my bedtime!
 
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a question pop up in my mind: do you exclusively edit non-fiction?
To be a little more clear, no. Back in the day I edited some works on Oz, particularly about Dorothy, by an author in New York. Also some Sherlockian works by others - a mixture of FanFic and essays.
But it's fair to say predominantly my editing work is in non-fiction, and in a new translation of what we errantly call "The New Testament" for a new bible awhile back.

In terms of my own writing, other than extensive time in writing on Biblical materials, lessons, contracts and training programs for various jobs during my life, and my Sherlockian essays published in Sherlockian journals in the U.S., Canada, Japan and England, I've really only done one fiction (kind of FanFic) piece.

It was an essay purportedly written by Dr. Watson reviewing Holmes' miserable efforts in The Yellow Face. (I wrote it in his voice from his perspective.)
 
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Well, a bit after "tomorrow" but hey, we do what we can!

My wife had knee replacement surgery two weeks ago yesterday. That's taken the bulk of my time and energy. It went well and now that things are settling down again, I'll be able to write more.

I'm 29 pages into this chapter. So far, I'm at 5 different people expressing what happened from their own point of view. There's a lot going on.

The following is probably boring as all get out, or likely to be considered cray-cray, but it is what it is.

Relevant Pre-chapter story info:

Main character (nickname Míri) is a superlative bard. She is the ardalagan Lorien, i.e., the royal bard of Lorien. It's a court position that's part emissary, part herald, part court entertainer.

On a mission for her king, she re-finds the man she believes is the love of her life (and vice-versa) in 3A 1973 after meeting and being separated by fate back in 3A 1390. As a key member of Lorien's court she must have her king's permission to wed. They travel to Khazad-dum where he awaits word from her. (He was banished long ago and has been working to be considered worthy again. He is a descendant of Feanor.) She goes into Lorien to make her petition. He is still considered unsuitable (a very prudent decision) if not a correct one. Amroth forbids the marriage, forbids her to contact him (other than to convey this knowledge), and forbids her to leave Lorien. She misses the fall of Arthedain whilst she is sequestered in Lorien. Aside from missing all that adventure and the associated tales of heroism and valour (a hard punishment for a bard of her skill!), she has no idea what has happened to the orphanage she founded and concealed in a fen in Arthedain. She gets word the orphanage survived the war, Khazad-dum falls to Durin's Bane, her dear childhood friend Nimrodel flees Lorien and Amroth goes after her. Before leaving, he makes the main character his regent, both due to her ability and because her sense of duty will bind her in Lorien in his absence. Nimrodel disappears, Amroth disappears, and Celeborn and Galadriel come to Lorien to help stabilize the realm after Amroth's sudden departure. She hands over the regency to them. Celeborn appears to take a solid dislike to the Míri. He makes a comment that Durin's Bane might be a better neighbour than the dwarves and a prince of House Feanor makes his position clear.

From about 1389 until 1973 she spent most of her time in Arthedain warring against Angmar's spies, saboteurs, and traitors in Arthedain. In that warring, she earns a nemesis, an evil elf whom she drives out of NW Middle-earth with a clever trick and a cunning intelligence operation. Sadly, it's the only time she ever outsmarts him, but he remembers. Oh, how he remembers! His speciality is rotting a culture from within.

At one point, she was betrayed by a fellow elf (Angall) who went bad. Angall betrayed his companions. Many of them died. Miri was one of the few who lived, and that barely. Angall joined Sauron's side (whether he knows it's Sauron or not, she wouldn't know, given that none of the wise know Sauron is back yet.) In the 3A 1600s Miri was on a ship that foundered in a storm off the coast of Umbar and was sold into slavery to one of the lords of Umbar, who was Angall in human disguise. She managed to escape when the plague hit Umbar a number of years later. Fearing retribution from Angall that would interfere with her ability to keep her orphanage safe, she sent him word that no matter what he had done, if ever he needed a sanctuary, she would offer him one to the best of her ability. It was a peace offering in hope, only offered for the betterment of the children in her care. 20 years ago, Angall dropped off his newborn son Dirgon for safekeeping. Dirgon was raised like all the other children in the orphanage to value knowledge and lore, to share it willingly, and to learn and honour kindness, courage and loyalty to the Free Peoples. He knows his father brought him here for his safety, but nothing else. Oh, FYI, at this point in time, I've chosen for Umbar to still be part of Umbar. (Tolkien was ambiguous over when it broke away from Gondor, I decided that was unlikely to have happened before Gondor sent such a large army north to Arthedain. That means Angall will be in hiding from Gondorian authorities when Dirgon is taken to Umbar.)

Whoosh, that's a lot!

Chapter info:

Start the chapter with a comment from the historical compiler of this work. He explains who has provided the material and that he has concerns about one of the tale-tellers becoming an unreliable witness in part.

Next comes a letter from Miri to Galadriel and Celeborn, sent from Lindon. In short, she reports what she learned about Nimrodel and Amroth's fate over the last 2 1/2 years of searching southern Gondor (you read that info in LOTR!). Glad you 2 are in charge of Lorien. She took ship in Gondor to Lindon and is going on to Arthedain to determine what needs doing. Oh, and Toodles.

Sgt Joe Friday of Dragnet fame would be pleased as her letter is "Just the facts, ma'am." This is short and sweet, less than a page.
(Incidentally, this sets the stage for her to turn that research into a hauntingly lovely ballad about Amroth and Nimrodel (which you also read in LOTR!) FYI, this is a great rendition of the ballad: . )

The next section is told by Elnarion, the elven headmaster at the orphanage hidden in the fen at the confluence of the rivers Lhun and Uialduin. He explains how she holds the elven-made wards in the fenland and uses them to get back unseen and unchallenged to the island in the fens where the Orphanage is. They talk the next morning and fill in each other on the happenings in her life in the 14 years since she was last here. She volunteers to escort a recent graduate of the orphanage (Dirgon) back to his family (more on that later). Elnarion explains that Arthedain no longer exists and no longer has a king. Aranarth has chosen to remain in hiding and styles himself chieftain of the rangers. The realm has been ruined by Angmar.

She ponders upon this and realizes her work to save Arthedain is over. She knows enough to realize that whatever moves the forces of evil in concert will now move its focus south to Gondor, so that is where she needs to set to work. She rips the wards over the lands out of her heart and gifts them to Aranarth, whom she avoids meeting because if she doesn't do this quickly, she'll lack the courage to do what is right. The sudden awareness of the entire fenland knocks Aranarth for a loop and she uses the opportunity to leave, with Dirgon trailing along behind her.

The next section is told by Dirgon. He's a 21-year-old half-elf. Dirgon remembers her (a bit) from when he was 7 and younger, but now he has to reconcile those warm and loving memories with the woman he now travels with. He has a head full of knowledge and a bit of a temper, but no practical ability to put it to use to deduce what will be going on around him in the world of his father he's about to enter. She feels honour-bound not to bad-mouth his father to Dirgon. She also feels honour-bound to make sure he knows what he needs to know and that she's prepared him to make "good" decisions in all senses of the word. She had not planned to be away from him for the last 14 years, so she's got to evaluate him and prepare him for what is to come and she's only got this journey to do so. She chooses two main lines of work, the first is to get him used to evaluating what people say against what they do against what he knows from other sources - all whilst he's having to deal with people who tell him "something" that's true but in a misleading way. She will continually trick and mislead him with wordplay until his mind and instincts are well-honed against it. He'll be angry, frustrated, puzzled. She'll be hiding things from him, things she wants him to find out but he's got to figure them out for himself. There will be a constant tension between them, mitigated by the fact that she's a truly loving and sweet woman who loves him just like all her other children at the orphanage. This has been very hard to write!

Second, she wants to expand and strengthen his sense of empathy. If that becomes strong enough and he becomes sure in his own mind on what is right and what is wrong, he won't willingly follow the path of least resistance in his father's house. That would be to go along with whatever evil his father is up to and wants him to help with. Life doesn't have to be about power over others. It can be over love, friendship and honour. So she takes him on a roundabout overland path to Umbar and his father. (She refuses to tell him the route they will take, she makes him guess and deduce it as they go.) The circle thru razed Arthedain to witness the aftermath of that destruction - death, ruined and cursed land, etc.. Then they go thru the western shire and stop for her to perform at the mid-summer Faire in Michel Delving. She teaches him how to apply cosmetics to hide their flawless elven skin so they can pass as humans. (Tolkien never said elves had big, long, pointy ears to my knowledge.) She wants him to both experience what a well-ordered land with peaceable people can truly be like and see she is still the same loving person with children his 7-year-old self remembers.

There's a side quest to see if she can learn news of Amroth or Nimrodel with the palantir in the Tower Hills, the one that is keyed to Valinor. This part is only thinly sketched out.

From there, they head across southern Minhiriath to its eastern coast and up to Lond Daer to find a ship to SW Gondor. Dirgon is learning how to travel unseen, unremarked, and to mislead those who spot them should misfortune make their passage known..

In Lond Daer, she'll run across a bard entertaining the local nobility using altered forms of old heroic tales. The altered forms denigrate the courage and honour of the tale's heroes in subtle ways. She recognizes the irony in how this is accomplished. When the bard recognizes Miri's harp and unintentionally shows fear, she knows her nemesis is back at work in this part of the world after an absence of nearly 600 years. She challenges the bard to a duel of song and tales and sends her packing in disgrace with her hosts. But that means Miri must quickly leave the area lest she be captured (again) by her enemy. This is just sketched out, but in some detail.

From there, they travel thru the backcountry of Gondor to Sarn Erech in Morthond. Miri isn't in her light travelling disguise here because she recently spent 2 1/2 years searching for Nimrodel and Amroth in this area. An insufficient disguise would be more noteworthy than just being present in the area. In Morthond there's a small party of dwarves who work in the mines now that they are homeless after the fall of Khazad-dum. One recognizes her from her visit there with her betrothed. He was a good friend of her betrothed. He approaches her to give his condolences at her loss, but botches the job. Worse, she doesn't know her betrothed died in Khazad-dum protecting his friends amongst the dwarves, so the news is a real surprise of a gut-punch. For the first time in her life, she gets drunk.

A patron in the inn asks her to sing for them (she's known to be a truly excellent bard). She does, but the sorrow in her overwhelms her. Her mournful song is so intense and so strong many of the patrons flee in dismay and despair. Others have to be restrained to keep them from harming themselves. Others collapse in weeping heaves of sorrow. The shades of the dead bound by the Stone of Erech are drawn to the sorrow and hundreds of them enter the town and then the inn or the public square outside it. She has no idea, she is lost in unrestrained sorrow.

The watch arrive with piercing lights that drive away the shades and she and Dirgon are unceremoniously tossed out the city gate. She is not arrested as she is an established emissary to Gondor from Lorien and only the King of Gondor can punish an emissary. But she can be banned from Morthond by the princess and that happens. The good part of this is that Dirgon demonstrates he's fully learned the lessons of empathy and loyalty to one's companions in how he responds to this adversity.

Dirgon skirts over the abasement of herself that Miri undertakes to get back into the good graces of the princess of Morthond. (The princess is a great person and they had been quite friendly.) This is why our historian compiler of these tales considers Dirgon to have become an unreliable witness for this part of the tale. This part is written.

The historian adds in a letter sent by the Master of Edhellond (an elf-haven at the mouth of the river Morthond in the Bay of Belfalas, across from the newly renamed Dol Amroth) to the Lady of the Galadhrim. In it, the master relates a tale told to him by reliable elf-friends at the court in Morthond, of the dread events that happened due to Miri's song (having no idea as to what caused it) and the self-abasement she suffered to make amends. This part is just sketched out.

From there we return to Dirgon's tale. They go to Harondor and Umbar. He's figured out Miri thinks his father is a traitor who is actively and willingly evil. She hands Dirgon off to Angall. She has no home in Lorien anymore, no home at the orphanage in Arthedain anymore, and no future with her deceased betrothed here in Middle-earth either. Her duty to her ward Dirgon is complete and she really doesn't care what happens to her anymore.

Whether Angall has remembered his honour, or Dirgon insists upon it, or Angall realizes it would be a kindness to kill her (so he doesn't), she leaves them in peace. She disguises herself as a human male and hires on as a mercenary guard on a trade caravan to eastern lands and disappears from the knowledge of the wise and her enemies for many years. This is very, very lightly sketched out.

Oh, forgot to mention that a sixth person, an ex-assassin for her nemesis, who defected, is the one who made the historian aware of Dirgon. He had been sent to track down Dirgon and kill him, but chose to fake the killing before he defected. I may add a bit from him at this point as he's been pretty quiet of late.

Next few chapters:

She won't be able to return westward several years later as Umbar falls to the Dark priests. Instead, she takes a trade caravan to the far south, to a trade port she visited on a mission for the White Council back in the 1600s. (It was this port she was returning from when her ship foundered off of Umbar and she became a slave there.) She finds true love. Comes back to NW Middle-earth by sea to reconcile herself at court in Lorien and to get permission to marry. In the process of that, she gets into the main adventure of the book.

This chapter and the next couple afterwards complete the transition from counter-intelligence activities in Arthedain to heroic quests in Gondor and the rest of NW Middle-earth. They set the stage for the return of her nemesis and his well-motivated and well-conceived attacks on her and her friends and loved ones.
 
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Progress!
Indeed.
Our Lore book marches forward to pre-order status, and will release soon.
We've gotten 'stuff' done for Monarchy to the point where we're discussing book cover art now.

I've added another category to address in the Appendix...but writing progress is slow as I continue research on some aspects I need to cite in it, and have been hit with illness. Foggy-brain-syndrome is currently in the way of clear thinking. (Though I'm not sure anyone but me would notice the difference.)

It is my great hope, following a strenuous and exhausting week of moving my wife's sister from one care facility to another (and getting Covid in the process in spite of precautions) to sweep the interruptions and encroachments aside, and get some serious writing time on the Appendix this weekend.

I really need to get it done..!

I seem to be coming out of the Covid fairly well here, but my wife's condition hasn't started its upward turn yet so she needs quite a bit of help still.

Slow reading and research also continues so I can move right into my first book as soon as the Appendix is submitted, reviewed and finalized.
 
Just loaded Cold War in Gondor (the story bits, not the appendices and prefaces) into Autocrit again. I've added almost 14,000 more words since the last time some weeks ago.

Only 555 usages of 'that' in 187,873 words. I'll wager half of them can be tossed when I go into the parts I haven't completed or edited yet.

PS - decided to do a quick edit on the most recent chapter of 14,000 words. 90 usages of 'that'. (Remember, I haven't even finished the first draft of it yet, must less done an edit on it.) Tossed 82 usages of 'that'.

It's important to remember that much of the written material in Book 1 dates back decades.

Readability score on this latest chapter is about 2.5 grade levels lower than the average for Book 1 as it stands. That means I'm writing cleaner, easier to read sentences than before.

The pacing report tags 10.6% of the paragraphs in Book 1 as "slow-paced". This chapter only tags 4.3% of them. Again, cleaner, better organized and easier to read than before.

And it's not just "the numbers", either. I like my newer writing style better. It's snappier.

And now it's time to get back to writing more in this beast of a chapter!
 
Your posts are gladdening to read. Thank you for sharing!
 
Wow, I'm honored to even be considered alongside such quality writers as @Ent and @david_wendelken ! Thank you! Your project looks interesting too. I don't know much about Amandil, but the synopsis you provided definitely makes me more interested in his story.

I don't think I've actually given a proper summary of my book on here, so if anyone's interested, I can do that.

As for my own writing update, I don't currently have much to report, as basically all my free time has been sucked away by trying to finish my Phantom of the Opera Star Princess costume before February 17th. But I've still been keeping the writing muscle alive by writing RPs with @Tyelkormo the Fair . We're in the process of editing one of our RPs into fanfiction format, and publishing it online. It's here in the Red Book entitled "Twilight Amidst the Everlasting Darkness" if anyone wants to read it.

Couldn't agree more with this!
 
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