Would 🧙Gandalf have survived.......?

[Húrin Thalion]

Wings? What perverted creature would think of a Balrog with wings?
No I simply think that Gandalf clung to the Balrog who couldn't be killed by the fall since he was not "embodified" as Gandalf was. If he had wings why didn't he fly up and kill the rest of the fellowship and left Gandalf to the nameless creatures down there?

Just a thought on Balrogs, besides how would that LOOK in Moria?

Húrin Thalion

 

[lightingstrike]

I think he probably could have

Yeah you are probably right. Maybe he could have surrvived if the two elf lords had been there, but it is not for sure. But, if the elves could have beaten him then why didn't Legolas try to charge the Balrog. Or did he think at that time that Gandalf knew what was happening and just decided that it was time. For those of you who have read the
TT, it really doesn't matter does it? ALso, if Merry and Pippin weren't there and the Elf Lords were Bomoir probably wouln't have died.

 

[Húrin Thalion]

Legolas is not as good as a warrior (especially not in close combat) as for example Glorfindel for a few reasons. The most important one is that he (Glorfindel) is a high elf who has long been in Aman and learned from the Valar and seen the two trees. Secondly all are not borne alike, one may have courage one may be a good singer. Also Legolas was not equipped to face a Balrog, a dagger and a bow would not have much effect. Gandalf also stood there and commanded the others to stay back and as all should he obeyed his commander. Welcome to the forum lightningstrike!

 

[Maeglin]

you took the words right out of my mouth Hurin, but I just have one question for you, was Glorfindel really born in Aman, or was he born in Gondolin, I never really knew for sure....

 

[Húrin Thalion]

Well... er I cannot prove it with any quotes but I am pretty covinced that he was born in Aman. We will have to await help from someone that knows to be sure though. ´

 

[Anamatar IV]

Originally posted by Húrin Thalion
effect. Gandalf also stood there and commanded the others to stay back and as all should he obeyed his commander.

But both Aragorn and Boromir were with Gandalf upon the bridge:

"We are with you Gandalf!" cried Aragorn. "Elendil!"
"Gondor!"

 

[Húrin Thalion]

I said "...as all should..."

'Over the bridge!' cried Gandalf, recalling his strength. 'Fly! Ths foe is beyond any of you. I must hold the narrow way. Fly!' Aragorn and Boromir did not heed the command but still held their ground, side by side. behind Gandalf at the end of the bridge.'

Now what is that, courage or folly? As said all should obey their commander as long as they have one.

 

[Arvedui]

Well, at least they were clever enough to stand behind Gandalf, and at the end of the bridge. Maybe they thought they could do better if Gandalf failed?
No, to be serious, I think it was a natural instinct in them. They did not yield to danger, and here was danger. The natural thing for both of them was to stand up against it.
Or maybe Legolas (and Gimli) knew more about Balrogs than they did.

 

[Maeglin]

I would say that Legolas definitely knew more about Balrogs than they did, because he is an Elf and had probably heard all the stories about Elven-warriors that fell against them.

 

[Thorondor_]

Well... er I cannot prove it with any quotes but I am pretty covinced that he was born in Aman. We will have to await help from someone that knows to be sure though. ´

The Fellowship of the Ring , p. 235, where he is said to have been one of the ‘lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas.. who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm.’