Huan the Hound
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If anyone has opinions about the following dialogue, I'd love to hear them! Also, if this topic has been covered, the appropriate thread would be much appreciated. Also, I'd pick Dragon.
-Would you rather be a dragon or a balrog?
-Well, I lack an intimate familiarity with the powers of each. A few things to consider: Are there female dragons or balrogs around? Are dragons inherently evil, as balrogs are, or could I choose to live a peaceful life if I so desired? Are dragons or balrogs more powerful?
If I were a balrog, and I lost my whip of flame somehow, would I be able to get a new one?
-Dragons and Balrogs both are considered to be created by Melkor, and therefore inherently evil. However, Tolkien says something interesting about the First War of the Ring (IE, the one you see on the Slopes of Mount Doom in LotR Fellowship movie):
In that battle there were no creatures in all of ME who were not in some way split between the two warring factions, except the Elves, who altogether rejected Sauron as evil. Now this means that Balrogs, Dragons, Trolls, Orcs, etc., in some way could have been considered against Sauron. This means that freedom of choice must exist, and therefore you could chose to be good or peaceful. However, it is my understanding of dragons that they need to eat things (cows, men, what have you) and would therefore be compelled by hunger, and of Balrogs that there very nature makes them hate things that Valar other than Melkor created, IE things that are good. I do not think Balrogs need to eat food.
I think Dragons are far less evil by nature, and far less easily compelled by evil opposed to compelled by their own interests.
In terms of power: I know both are very powerful. There were only 7 Balrogs in the history of ME, and they wrecked all sorts of ****. The # of Dragons was also small-- maybe 30 altogether? Balrogs were Maiar—the same as Gandalf, Saurman, Sauron, Melian, etc. The last dragon that anyone knew of was Smaug, who was killed in the hobbit. The last Balrog anyone heard of was the one Gandalf killed 70 years later. However, according to the calculations of many nerds, there should have been one Balrog remaining after the Moria Balrog was killed.
I think that the fiery whip is either a spiritual extension, or that any whip you could put your hands on would be inherently fiery if you were a Balrog.
-Would you rather be a dragon or a balrog?
-Well, I lack an intimate familiarity with the powers of each. A few things to consider: Are there female dragons or balrogs around? Are dragons inherently evil, as balrogs are, or could I choose to live a peaceful life if I so desired? Are dragons or balrogs more powerful?
If I were a balrog, and I lost my whip of flame somehow, would I be able to get a new one?
-Dragons and Balrogs both are considered to be created by Melkor, and therefore inherently evil. However, Tolkien says something interesting about the First War of the Ring (IE, the one you see on the Slopes of Mount Doom in LotR Fellowship movie):
In that battle there were no creatures in all of ME who were not in some way split between the two warring factions, except the Elves, who altogether rejected Sauron as evil. Now this means that Balrogs, Dragons, Trolls, Orcs, etc., in some way could have been considered against Sauron. This means that freedom of choice must exist, and therefore you could chose to be good or peaceful. However, it is my understanding of dragons that they need to eat things (cows, men, what have you) and would therefore be compelled by hunger, and of Balrogs that there very nature makes them hate things that Valar other than Melkor created, IE things that are good. I do not think Balrogs need to eat food.
I think Dragons are far less evil by nature, and far less easily compelled by evil opposed to compelled by their own interests.
In terms of power: I know both are very powerful. There were only 7 Balrogs in the history of ME, and they wrecked all sorts of ****. The # of Dragons was also small-- maybe 30 altogether? Balrogs were Maiar—the same as Gandalf, Saurman, Sauron, Melian, etc. The last dragon that anyone knew of was Smaug, who was killed in the hobbit. The last Balrog anyone heard of was the one Gandalf killed 70 years later. However, according to the calculations of many nerds, there should have been one Balrog remaining after the Moria Balrog was killed.
I think that the fiery whip is either a spiritual extension, or that any whip you could put your hands on would be inherently fiery if you were a Balrog.
pretty things...
