⚔️Battle of Helm's Deep - What would you do?

[Friend of Durin]

The Battle of Helm's Deep has to be one of the greatest scenes I have ever seen in cinema.

For fun, I am curious as to how you would strategically plan out this battle if you were in charge. Some questions below to get the conversation going.

- What would you do differently?

- How would you position the Elves?

- Would you set up traps?

- Would you position Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas elsewhere?

How would you approach this battle scene?

 

[Vorondil]

- How would you position the Elves?

I would position the elves in Lorien.

The Battle of Helm's Deep has to be one of the greatest scenes I have ever seen in cinema.

I agree.

 

[Deimos]

I would position the elves in Lorien.

I think the OP made a typo; he really meant ELF...singular... Legolas. 😉

 

[Glorfindel Goldtress]

To be entirely fair, this is in the forum New Line Cinema. I'll pass it... this time! 😂

 

[Vorondil]

To be entirely fair, this is in the forum New Line Cinema. I'll pass it... this time! 😂

To be entirely fair, this is the New Line Cinema forum, so you kind of have to pass it every time.

 

[Deimos]

To be entirely fair, this is in the forum New Line Cinema. I'll pass it... this time! 😂

Oh... my bad... I did not notice that 🫢😬.. major apologies.
Press on, Friend of Durin

 

[Radaghast]

To be entirely fair, this is in the forum New Line Cinema. I'll pass it... this time! 😂

To also be entirely fair, this used to be in the new members thread 😀

Welcome to the forum, btw, FoD 😀

 

[Vorondil]

The Battle of Helm's Deep has to be one of the greatest scenes I have ever seen in cinema.

For fun, I am curious as to how you would strategically plan out this battle if you were in charge. Some questions below to get the conversation going.

- What would you do differently?

- How would you position the Elves?

- Would you set up traps?

- Would you position Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas elsewhere?

How would you approach this battle scene?

I'm not sure if I would have done anything differently.

 

[Deimos]

Well, it's kind of minor, and doesn't have a whole lot to do with any strategic positioning of the the elves for battle, but I probably would not have Aragorn Bro-hug Haldir.
Pretty sure from the look on his face, Haldir would concur.

 

[Radaghast]

Re: the elves at Helm's Deep I would first loudly wonder just how in heck they got there. Someone school me, please. It's not just the teleportation, it's also that they had to get past enemy lines undetected.

 

[Deimos]

Re: the elves at Helm's Deep I would first loudly wonder just how in heck they got there. Someone school me, please. It's not just the teleportation, it's also that they had to get past enemy lines undetected.

I'd have to agree with this, lack of canonical accuracy aside.
Going by the Fonstad map, the Deeping Coomb was well over a mile in length and the enemy soldiers (10000) filled it, wall-to-wall.
Honestly, if we are to entertain the idea that the Elves somehow managed to get by the enemy, we may as well throw in, for the defense, a hundred Ninja bears with plasma cannons.

 

[Deimos]

OK, so giving Friend of Durin a break... assuming the elves were already there before the enemy showed up (best not to ask how), what would be an effective deployment strategy?
I'll leave the answer(s) to those who have studied land based warfare, especially siege warfare.
(I was in the Navy, not the Army...right there with Aragorn and the Corsair ships he commandeered 😉).

 

[Radaghast]

GALADRIEL (V.O.)
Do we leave Middle-earth to its fate?
Do we let them stand alone?

ELROND
Oh, very well! Commence Operation: Ninja Beorning!

That reminds me. Why is Galadriel asking Elrond to send Elves from her realm? 🤔

 

[Deimos]

"Operation: Ninja Beorning!"

Perfect. Love it. Wish I had thought of it! 😄

 

[Radaghast]

"Operation: Ninja Beorning!"

Perfect. Love it. Wish I had thought of it! 😄

 

[Friend of Durin]

To also be entirely fair, this used to be in the new members thread 😀

Welcome to the forum, btw, FoD 😀

Thank you Radaghast! My mistake, I did not know I posted this in another forum. The answers are hilarious LOL!

 

[Deimos]

New Member with a sense of humour... always welcome here.
Greetings, @Friend of Durin 😄

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Thank you Radaghast! My mistake, I did not know I posted this in another forum. The answers are hilarious LOL

Yes, I did move this to the movie forum. But feel free to introduce yourself "formally", if you like, and say something about your particular interests, in the New Members forum:

https://thetolkien.forum/forums/new-members.58/

As for Helm's Deep, why stop there?

 

[Halasían]

It was PJs fanfic. Everything was done just as he saw it in his head.
If it was my fanfic, it would be a lot different.

 

[Radaghast]

"Operation: Ninja Beorning!"

Perfect. Love it. Wish I had thought of it! 😄

Dagnabbit, just thought of a better one: BeorNinja.

This cannot be Beorn!