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Did some initial editing of the chapter mentioned in my last few posts. I caught some grammar mistakes and got rid of unnecessary filler words and cliches. I reduced the usage of generic descriptions and switched most to more specific ones. Pacing & momentum are about 3 times better than my pre-Autocrit average score. It's still pretty rough and raw, it definitely needs more polishing. But it's coming together.

Had a friend read the chapter today and give me some feedback. I have some concerns about the overall structure of the chapter. There's a lot going on. In some ways, I can see it should be a split into 2 to 4 chapters, possibly based on POV (point-of-view) telling the story in the chapter. In other ways of looking at it, it's one journey and one transformative process for the main character in the chapter. To quote them, "I don't know whether it needs to be separate chapters or all better integrated together. Right now, it seems somewhere between the two." Couldn't have said it better myself.

Book 1 is a collection of letters, entries in historical annals of a family or realm, official government documents, diaries, interviews, tales and songs. Different parts of the story are told (I hope) appropriately to the chosen form that story portion was historically recorded in. Diaries tend to be more 1st person with interior thoughts. Tales tend to be more 3rd person omniscient but also with a more poetic form of expression and word choice than a letter, and certainly more so than an annal entry or government document. It's my hope that the different characters who provided written portions of the story have a different enough "voice" when all is said and done. I.e., their sentence structure, word choice, the type of things they focus on, etc., would vary based on the person who recorded that portion of the story. I know I've done a good job on some of Book 1; I expect I haven't on other parts. That's what editing is for! :)

Some of the chapters are translations of long, epic tales. Because the tales are long, I need to subdivide them into chapters. But I want it completely clear they are all one tale. I've done this using several mechanisms. Heading level One is reserved for Chapter headings. The Tale's title is a Heading 1. Heading level 2, i.e., the heading nested underneath a Heading 1, is reserved for Canto sub-titles. In the page header, I always include the chapter name. If it's a canto, I have the chapter name followed by a colon, then followed by the canto name.

A typical chapter heading and page header for it.
a gift for gondor chapter heading.png


A typical chapter containing cantos, this is a chapter heading and first canto heading on the same page:
in the land of the prince canto 1.png


Typical canto heading and page header:
in the land of the prince canto heading.png

Cantos are not appropriate for this chapter as it's not a tale. It's composed of two letters and two interviews. Initially, I used an asterism and a simple From (Character Name): on the next line. Well, technically, an asterism should have three asterisks in a triangular form. I'm not happy with this transition, it's not visual enough. One option would be to make the From (Character Name): element in bold and a bit bigger font:
duty's journey to loss asterism.png

This is from a different chapter where I'm experimenting with a dinkus (a horizontal graphical element used as a separator) when the POV changes. The intent (if I stick with this motif) is to devise a different dinkus for each POV. Right now, I'm just using the same one each time:
notes of sorrow and joy canto 1 header.png


So, you can see I've put a lot of thought into the visual layout. Would love some good ideas on how to improve the visual cues to a change of POV.

I still have more editing to do on this chapter, but I need to let the current work and my thoughts about it percolate for a bit. I'm ready to write new material for the next chapter, so that's what I'm doing now.

I have a page & a half written in the follow-up chapter and another half-page of things to include and the order to include them.
 
There's a lot of good content here. The only part I tripped up on was the bit about the sun snuggling behind the mountains 😆 gave me a giggle, for sure.

In any case, it looks really fascinating :}
Thank you for sharing it!
 
There's a lot of good content here. The only part I tripped up on was the bit about the sun snuggling behind the mountains 😆 gave me a giggle, for sure.

In any case, it looks really fascinating :}
Thank you for sharing it!
Yeah, I agree it's a bit silly. I hope it gives a light-hearted, carefree tone to that part of the work, and shows the person feels like everything is shiny and new.
 
I could do a zoom meeting and demonstrate some of the writing tools and techniques I've been learning. They've really helped unblock my writing and enable me to force inspiration instead of hang around hoping it will show up. Would that be useful?
 
Did some initial editing of the chapter mentioned in my last few posts. I caught some grammar mistakes and got rid of unnecessary filler words and cliches. I reduced the usage of generic descriptions and switched most to more specific ones. Pacing & momentum are about 3 times better than my pre-Autocrit average score. It's still pretty rough and raw, it definitely needs more polishing. But it's coming together.

Had a friend read the chapter today and give me some feedback. I have some concerns about the overall structure of the chapter. There's a lot going on. In some ways, I can see it should be a split into 2 to 4 chapters, possibly based on POV (point-of-view) telling the story in the chapter. In other ways of looking at it, it's one journey and one transformative process for the main character in the chapter. To quote them, "I don't know whether it needs to be separate chapters or all better integrated together. Right now, it seems somewhere between the two." Couldn't have said it better myself.

Book 1 is a collection of letters, entries in historical annals of a family or realm, official government documents, diaries, interviews, tales and songs. Different parts of the story are told (I hope) appropriately to the chosen form that story portion was historically recorded in. Diaries tend to be more 1st person with interior thoughts. Tales tend to be more 3rd person omniscient but also with a more poetic form of expression and word choice than a letter, and certainly more so than an annal entry or government document. It's my hope that the different characters who provided written portions of the story have a different enough "voice" when all is said and done. I.e., their sentence structure, word choice, the type of things they focus on, etc., would vary based on the person who recorded that portion of the story. I know I've done a good job on some of Book 1; I expect I haven't on other parts. That's what editing is for! :)

Some of the chapters are translations of long, epic tales. Because the tales are long, I need to subdivide them into chapters. But I want it completely clear they are all one tale. I've done this using several mechanisms. Heading level One is reserved for Chapter headings. The Tale's title is a Heading 1. Heading level 2, i.e., the heading nested underneath a Heading 1, is reserved for Canto sub-titles. In the page header, I always include the chapter name. If it's a canto, I have the chapter name followed by a colon, then followed by the canto name.

A typical chapter heading and page header for it.
View attachment 29877

A typical chapter containing cantos, this is a chapter heading and first canto heading on the same page:
View attachment 29878

Typical canto heading and page header:
View attachment 29879
Cantos are not appropriate for this chapter as it's not a tale. It's composed of two letters and two interviews. Initially, I used an asterism and a simple From (Character Name): on the next line. Well, technically, an asterism should have three asterisks in a triangular form. I'm not happy with this transition, it's not visual enough. One option would be to make the From (Character Name): element in bold and a bit bigger font:
View attachment 29880
This is from a different chapter where I'm experimenting with a dinkus (a horizontal graphical element used as a separator) when the POV changes. The intent (if I stick with this motif) is to devise a different dinkus for each POV. Right now, I'm just using the same one each time:
View attachment 29881

So, you can see I've put a lot of thought into the visual layout. Would love some good ideas on how to improve the visual cues to a change of POV.

I still have more editing to do on this chapter, but I need to let the current work and my thoughts about it percolate for a bit. I'm ready to write new material for the next chapter, so that's what I'm doing now.

I have a page & a half written in the follow-up chapter and another half-page of things to include and the order to include them.
No layout suggestions for me to solve the problem?
 
No layout suggestions for me to solve the problem?
Symbols which are closely associated with each character would be my best suggestion, personally. The harp for Carnemirië, and some either artifacts or emblems which indicate close loved for your other characters.

As an example: Carnemirië's love may have something associated with the Feänorian star, or with the Noldor themselves. His son would have a symbol or emblem similar to his father's, but with changes on it affected by the influence of Carnemarië. Other characters may have their own or similar emblems depending on their involvement in the story and the complexity of their roles. This means a lot of work, but the somewhat less ambitious alternative could be that only some of your characters get special symbols and you use a more generic sigil for the less important characters.

That's the idea I'd run with, personally. Hope it helps or gives you ideas :]
 
Symbols which are closely associated with each character would be my best suggestion, personally. The harp for Carnemirië, and some either artifacts or emblems which indicate close loved for your other characters.

As an example: Carnemirië's love may have something associated with the Feänorian star, or with the Noldor themselves. His son would have a symbol or emblem similar to his father's, but with changes on it affected by the influence of Carnemarië. Other characters may have their own or similar emblems depending on their involvement in the story and the complexity of their roles. This means a lot of work, but the somewhat less ambitious alternative could be that only some of your characters get special symbols and you use a more generic sigil for the less important characters.

That's the idea I'd run with, personally. Hope it helps or gives you ideas :]
The dinkus (line of) harps, for example, was one idea I had. (Example in post above.) It clued the reader there was a break but it wasn't so clear who's telling the tale. If there were only 1 to 3 people with POV parts it would work. I like the graphic with the character's name below it because it's both decorative and clearer. (Example also in post above.) I think if I'm changing POV within a chapter, the 2nd time the same character is the POV I can use a dinkus to save space and it would be clear enough.

Thoughts?
 
That idea makes sense. Start the chapter with a graphic and a name, then use the dinkus if/when there is an in-chapter POV switch.
Over time, your readers will become accustomed to the symbols attached to each character and will recognize them instantly. In the meantime, the graphics will help a lot.
 
I could do a zoom meeting and demonstrate some of the writing tools and techniques I've been learning. They've really helped unblock my writing and enable me to force inspiration instead of hang around hoping it will show up. Would that be useful?
If you're interested in this idea, you need to let me know. I guess a message thru the site would be best. I don't know where in the world folks live and thus what times would be workable for others. How about 7pm eastern standard time on a Tuesday or Thursday night work?
 
If you're interested in this idea, you need to let me know. I guess a message thru the site would be best. I don't know where in the world folks live and thus what times would be workable for others. How about 7pm eastern standard time on a Tuesday or Thursday night work?
For myself, I thank you, but I'm shy as a bunny for the time being.
 
but I'm shy as a bunny for the time being.
You don't have to turn your video on! ;)
There are many kinds of 'shy' when it comes to this sort of thing, not all of which have to do with being seen physically.
The idea is a great one... but for me still a little premature.

Today I finalized the Appendix for Monarchy. Gave it the first significant editing pass. The second (and final) will be tomorrow morning, after which I will send it to the Author.

I'm finding it bitter-sweet.
It brings about endings, and beginnings.

An epoch ending great and exciting work on one author's materials, after which there will likely be no more.
An epoch beginning exciting work on my own things... stuff I feel I have yet to say.

Transitions.
The stuff of life.
Sadness and gladness intertwined in meaningful, poignant ways.
Memories remain, as long as memory remains.
And we are satisfied.

I have been quiet of late. So shall it remain.
 
Today I finalized the Appendix for Monarchy. Gave it the first significant editing pass. The second (and final) will be tomorrow morning, after which I will send it to the Author.

I'm finding it bitter-sweet.
It brings about endings, and beginnings.

An epoch ending great and exciting work on one author's materials, after which there will likely be no more.
An epoch beginning exciting work on my own things... stuff I feel I have yet to say.

Transitions.
The stuff of life.
Sadness and gladness intertwined in meaningful, poignant ways.
Memories remain, as long as memory remains.
And we are satisfied.

I have been quiet of late. So shall it remain.
I hope we all get to hear/read what you have to say in time :]
 
I have 5 1/2 pages written in the following chapter, "A Journey to Elsewhere".
I have two sections of the prior chapter remaining to write, but I made good progress on one of them last night.

Progress!

I think when I get these two done I need to go to work on several chapters that have huge amounts of writing done in them. The setup isn't complete, but it's time to start working on the main tale again.
 

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