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What are you writing about now?

Wha'd I say?! 😳🤯
HaRhAr... wouldn't you like to know..!!!
Well, OK... I won't withhold the evidence.

I once attributed an event in LoTR directly to a Scripture passage and Tolkien's awareness of it. You responded in a way suggesting it was a mis-step to 'directly attribute' what Tolkien wrote in such a way.

I pondered this for weeks.
It turns out it would not be amiss to attribute the event to the 'Elements of Religion' as such a concept exists in other religious views as well.
But to 'directly attribute it' to a Biblical passage is to isolate it from the Elements of Religion incorrectly, focusing it on strictly a Biblical/Catholic/Christian perspective.

This started a very long chain of other ponderings never leaving me until this day, and continuing into the future as long as my cognition remains intact.

It actually impacts every facet of thought and life... well beyond just Tolkien.
 
The general response I wish to give you is "Thank you, very, very much", for in the little time I have been on this forum you have proven yourself a person of much knowledge and thought. These are admirable traits and ones to respect when one finds them.
You are welcome. If ever I say any thing any one finds to be of any value, I consider myself to have been blessed indeed. I have little to offer.
This is also why all my works 'editing' have always been done at the exhorbitant fee of $0.00 per hour, page, chapter or book.
The blessing I receive from just working with and on the ideas and works of others is far beyond anything 'financial remuneration' could provide.
(Though if I ever retire from working for The Man, I may need to charge some small amount for a little added income.)

But any author whose stuff I work with needs infinite patience. i dig deep, ask many questions, and take TIME laboring over the work(s). So an author in a hurry wouldn't find me too compatible I fear. (Though tremendous progress can be made to any work, just by searching and reworking "that", "which", 'passive and' and several other things.)

Any time a thousand "thats" can be reduced to 20, with corresponding improvement in reading flow and thought coherence, a strong impact on the work has been made. (And these things can be done quickly.)

The appendix I just finished had 5,961 words (a short 8.5 pager). Not a single 'that' in it is mine... though there are 22, all of which are in quotes made by other authors within the work.

I digress.
Again, you are welcome.
 
It actually impacts every facet of thought and life... well beyond just Tolkien.
@Squint-eyed Southerner -
I should add your comment is testimony to the statement 'words have power.' (In point of fact, words ARE power.) It is why Tolkien labored over them so much... and I try to, within my far more limited scope.

It is also not the only comment you've made having an impact..! I watch them all closely.
 
Several pieces of good news.

First and most important, my wife is recovering very well after her full knee replacement 4 1/2 weeks ago. We went grocery shopping together for the first time since her operation and she walked every aisle in the store with me, pushing the cart. Got tired by the end of it, but it's a whole lot better than it was a few weeks ago. She's still a bit unsteady on her feet and needs a cane at the moment, but she's walking faster than she was before her surgery. Woot!

Second, I had one last section left to write on my big transition chapter. In it, the main character gets a sudden inspiration to see what can be learned from the palantir in the Tower Hills west of the Shire. (She's traveling south through the western part of The Shire when the idea comes to her.) This palantir is reputed to only show what is in Valinor, unlike the other six stones in the set.

Now, I don't believe that some random person walking down the highway whilst passing through bumpkinville can just hightail it over to the Tower Hills and
be given access to the palantir. Neither does Carnemírië, our heroine. She does have some reasonable expectations of getting assistance.

She is the ardalagon Lórien, the Royal Harpist of Lorien, serving King Amroth, (i.e., one of his emissaries and a member of his royal court). She has been so for about 500 years. Most of that time she has spent actively supporting Arthedain against Angmar. She made frequent trips to Lindon to drum up assistance for an orphanage for Dunedain children displaced by the war. She's an extremely skilled bard and would be well-known to key elves in Lindon or surviving key officials in Arthedain.

Or at least, she was.

It's 3A 1984. Amroth and Nimrodel have been missing for 2 1/2 years and Arthedain fell in 3A 1974. It's a bit unclear whether she's actually still the Royal Harpist because, well, there isn't actually a King in Lorien any more. (Celeborn and Galadriel are "just" the Lord and Lady of Lórien.) She hasn't been officially removed (to her knowledge) but she's been out of pocket in the back woods of southern Gondor searching for traces of Nimrodel or Amroth, so she wouldn't necessarily know one way or the other. It was quite clear that Celeborn did not like her, he went out of his way to let that be known, before she left Lórien to conduct the search.)

Her inspiration was that if either were in Valinor, perhaps this palantir would show that. It would be good to make the succession to the rule of Lórien
clear and unambiguous, and that would be within the purview of her duties. She really has no idea how the palantir work or what their full capabilities or limitations are. As the best-selling lottery advert campaign said, "Hey, ya never know!" The reward for success is big and the cost is only a few days of her time to try.

So, I had to figure out what she would learn, or even if she would learn anything at all.

I finally figured out what she would learn, but the writing wasn't coming out. Lots of bad starts with a totally unsatisfactory feel to it.

Remember in the Fellowship of the Ring (Peter Jackson) movie? Instead of showing Galadriel give three locks of her hair to Gimli, they had him talk about it afterward? The actor's explanation was the act of giving the locks would be very awkward to stage.

That's when I realized I shouldn't show the process of her entering the towers, negotiating being able to search them, having a seer explain how they work, and then describe the experience as it happens to her.

This section of the chapter is being told by a young man who was travelling with her. I realized if I continue having him as the narrator, he's not going to be privy to any of that. They'll arrive, she'll be closeted privately with the powers-that-be to negotiate access, she'll see what she sees, and they'll leave the tower hills together.

And then, as they resume their journey together, he'll ask, "Miri, what did you learn?"

Golly, that's a whole lot easier to write! And it earns bonus points because it keeps the mystery intact! :)

Time to get back to writing!
 
The chapter came in at 52 pages. I'm halfway through the first grammar edit. Then comes the consistency/plot-hole edit. Then, the wordsmithing edit will be followed by a final grammar edit. So far, I'm reasonably pleased. It ties up some loose ends from her earlier life, foreshadows new events, and rockets her into a major life change.
 
I am struggling with one grammatical issue. The software tools I'm using are pretty good about finding similar issues and pointing them out. One of my highly developed professional skills is recognizing patterns and making good use of them. But this grammar issue? That's not working. I'm being bombarded to either add or remove commas from my sentences and I simply don't understand what the pattern is.

I've placed an asterix (*) in the locations of the these three sentences. The software says a comma does, or does not, belong there.

Could anyone tell me their opinion and, more importantly, reveal the pattern or rule that would help make it clear to me?

My thoughts went to them* and the palantir’s vision changed with my intent.

I waited for a few moments* and prompted her to continue.

As I watched the four of them at their meal* and drank deeply of the sight of them lest I ever forget, the lady they served turned her head towards me* and regarded me closely.
 
My thoughts went to them* and the palantir’s vision changed with my intent.

I waited for a few moments* and prompted her to continue.

As I watched the four of them at their meal* and drank deeply of the sight of them lest I ever forget, the lady they served turned her head towards me* and regarded me closely.
To me, it appears that the difference may lie in whether or not you are describing a separate action within the same sentence or whether the action is merely a continuation of the first.

For example, the last sentence: "As I watched the four of them at their meal, and drank deeply of the sight of them lest I ever forget, the lady they served turned her head towards me and regarded me closely."
This is how I would write it, personally. The action of "drinking in the sight" occurs during the watching and is interposed between that action of watch
 
My thoughts went to them* and the palantir’s vision changed with my intent.

I waited for a few moments* and prompted her to continue.

As I watched the four of them at their meal* and drank deeply of the sight of them lest I ever forget, the lady they served turned her head towards me* and regarded me closely.
To me, it appears that the difference may lie in whether or not you are describing a separate action within the same sentence or whether the action is merely a continuation of the first.

For example, the last sentence: "As I watched the four of them at their meal, and drank deeply of the sight of them lest I ever forget, the lady they served turned her head towards me and regarded me closely."
This is how I would write it, personally. The action of "drinking in the sight" occurs during the watching and is interposed between that action of watching the four people at the table and watching the lady turn her head towards the viewer. If the "drinking" had not been written, there would, in my opinion, have been no need for a comma.

The second comma in this sentence, or asterisk, does not need to exist, according to my thinking. The reason for this being the lady's action of turning her head and of regarding the viewer were part of one action and one intent. There was no interruption or intervention, and so the comma, I think, is not needed.

As for the first and second sentences, they too do not seem to need commas at all, as they both describe a single flowing action and intent.

Hope that helps. If I'm wrong, I hope for correction.
 
1. My thoughts went to them* and the palantir’s vision changed with my intent.

2. I waited for a few moments* and prompted her to continue.
My comments are for sentences #1 and #2.

Rule: If you're joining two complete sentences with a conjunction (and, or, but, etc.) then you use a comma before the conjunction.

In #1: "My thoughts went to them" is a complete sentence. "the palantir's vision changed with my intent" is a complete sentence. Therefore, applying the rule, you need a comma before the "and" in the full compound sentence.

In #2: "prompted her to continue" is not a complete sentence. It is only a phrase. Therefore, there should be no comma before the "and".

Anyone please feel free to correct this if I'm giving bad advice, but I think I have it right.
 
I'm working on Book 1 in my series. That's the one I started back in the late 1980s, so it has my earliest fiction writing in it. About 3/4ths of it was written before I had the modern tools in MS Word that we take for granted now, much less the more powerful ones like Grammarly or Autocrit.

Grammarly says I have 4100 issues for me to review in Book 1. My guess is that 1000-1500 of them are comma-related like the ones above. At least they'll be an easy fix now that I understand!

4100 sounds like a whole lot of mistakes. (It is.) It's also only an average of 7 issues per page, which makes me feel much better about it! Especially because a number of pages are just the electronic equivalent of scribbled idea fragments. Grammarly tends to find more issues as it works with a given text more, so there are probably 6000 issues in total, but that's still just a bit over 10.3 per page. It will take a while to work through the issues, but the writing will be better for it.

The good news is I'll be taking it a chapter at a time rather than the entire book at one time as I did with book 2 in the series.

Oh, the other good news is that quite a few of those issues aren't mistakes in fiction writing, they are possible mistakes in business writing. In a business document, I want to be clear and concise. In a fiction story, I want some magic and poetry, so a bit of "wordiness" by business standards is desirable!
 
I just realized I'm only two days away from March! Golly!

I have a 4 day printmaking/bookbinding class scheduled at the end of April. I want to come out of that class with a bound copy of Volume II, The House of Finrod in the War of the Ring. I've learned so much more about editing in the last few months, I want to make another editing pass through the book before I print a copy to bind in the class. Plus, I need to get all the wood and enamel bits done!

I ordered all the bookbinding tools (I hope!) that I'll need to make additional copies this summer. A lot of them should be here in a couple of days. The rest may take a few weeks.

So, I started my editing pass on Volume II late last night. Had lots of interruptions and chores to do today, but I've gotten 31 pages edited so far.

Gobs of misplaced commas but they're easy to correct now that I understand the rules! I used to put them where I would pause when speaking the sentence. (Personally, I think that makes more sense than the actual grammatical rules.) Probably have (at least!!) a thousand of those to get thru.

The paid version of Grammarly is great at helping me simplify my sentences. But I like the results better and I think my new writing will have more straightforward sentences than it otherwise would.

Goal is 50 pages per day, which means I'll be finished by Friday of next week with a couple of days to spare.
 
I just realized I'm only two days away from March! Golly!

I have a 4 day printmaking/bookbinding class scheduled at the end of April. I want to come out of that class with a bound copy of Volume II, The House of Finrod in the War of the Ring. I've learned so much more about editing in the last few months, I want to make another editing pass through the book before I print a copy to bind in the class. Plus, I need to get all the wood and enamel bits done!

I ordered all the bookbinding tools (I hope!) that I'll need to make additional copies this summer. A lot of them should be here in a couple of days. The rest may take a few weeks.

So, I started my editing pass on Volume II late last night. Had lots of interruptions and chores to do today, but I've gotten 31 pages edited so far.

Gobs of misplaced commas but they're easy to correct now that I understand the rules! I used to put them where I would pause when speaking the sentence. (Personally, I think that makes more sense than the actual grammatical rules.) Probably have (at least!!) a thousand of those to get thru.

The paid version of Grammarly is great at helping me simplify my sentences. But I like the results better and I think my new writing will have more straightforward sentences than it otherwise would.

Goal is 50 pages per day, which means I'll be finished by Friday of next week with a couple of days to spare.
This sounds great! I hope everything goes well :]
 
So happy to hear people progress. @david_wendelken, it sounds like the 'paid version' will be useful.

And it will be useful to me sooner than I had predicted.
In continuing research on J.R.R. Tolkien and the Elements Of Religion, the book has taken another dramatic turn...toward an original concept I had before I changed the direction, though that concept is now a 'new and improved' one. (at least, to me.)

It now heads into territory and content none of the authors in my books being researched delve into.
The concept and material are massive.
It is entirely possible it will become a Trilogy...
Or, it may just be a 'book 1 and book 2' if I write from a different angle. |

And, I may do some Papers for some Tolkien journals first... expanding them into the book(s) later.

Or, do an initial version of the Book, with a "Revised and Expanded" edition a bit later. (The intent and content really are massive.)

THE GOOD NEWS - I can get to writing much quicker now, as I've already done most of the up-front research needed for the modified (though expanded) approach, and am left working with books and texts I'm already quite familiar with.

I'm very excited. (But I think I say that a lot..!)
 

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