Úlairi
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Goro Shimura
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I think Bakshi was more true to the Book.
The armor in the movie was frightening-- but having just a hunched over sniffling figure is much more eerie.
I think hunched over and twisted... maybe even with boots that don't quite seem to fit is more like it. (Quasimodo gone Goth?)
Anyway... the movie Nazgul had posture that was just way too good.
The armor in the movie was frightening-- but having just a hunched over sniffling figure is much more eerie.
I think hunched over and twisted... maybe even with boots that don't quite seem to fit is more like it. (Quasimodo gone Goth?)
Anyway... the movie Nazgul had posture that was just way too good.
I believe that when Tolkien says the Nazgul need their black robes to give them "form" he means that they are invisible (in other words they have no visible form), not that they are truly shapeless under their cloaks. From The Shadow of the Past chapter in FOTR (I just posted this on another thread), Gandalf speaking:
"A mortal Frodo, who keeps one of the Great Rings, does not die, but he does not grow or obtain more life, he merely continues, until at last every minute is a weariness. And if he often uses the Ring to make himself invisible, he fades: he becomes in the end invisible permanently, and walks in the twilight under the eye of the dark power that rules the Rings. Yes, sooner or later -- later, if he id dtrong or well-meaning to begin with, but neither strength nor good purpose will last -- sooner or later the dark power will devour him." [italics in original]
Also, when Merry stabs the head Nazgul at the battle of Pelennor Fields, Tolkien describes that Merry's swrod thrust "pierced the sinew behind his might knee". So while the Nazgul may have been invisible under their cloaks, they still had human bodies and form.
"A mortal Frodo, who keeps one of the Great Rings, does not die, but he does not grow or obtain more life, he merely continues, until at last every minute is a weariness. And if he often uses the Ring to make himself invisible, he fades: he becomes in the end invisible permanently, and walks in the twilight under the eye of the dark power that rules the Rings. Yes, sooner or later -- later, if he id dtrong or well-meaning to begin with, but neither strength nor good purpose will last -- sooner or later the dark power will devour him." [italics in original]
Also, when Merry stabs the head Nazgul at the battle of Pelennor Fields, Tolkien describes that Merry's swrod thrust "pierced the sinew behind his might knee". So while the Nazgul may have been invisible under their cloaks, they still had human bodies and form.
Khamul
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And also if I remember correctly, they are more effective cloaked, because they have less terror going before them. If they had been uncloaked then Frodo would be even more terrified and they couldnt have come that close to anyone without them going into shock or something of the sort.
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the nazgul wore shapes that suited them. you can't kill a nazgul, unless you destroy the one ring, and if you struck down one of them, they lose their shape, and must find another. frodo saw them in their twilight world, and saw them in their true form.
Úlairi
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Exactly greypilgrim, and Greenwood is also correct which is why I posted as to why they didn't go unclad and take the Ring from Frodo. As for Sting's comment, nowhere can I find that they had more ar less terror when they went clad or unclad. In fact, it is quite the opposite of what you have said Sting. Here is a passage in UT explaining this:
The Nazgul seemed more terrifying when they were unclad then when they clad. Sauron's tactics were not in order here. If he had sent the Nazgul unclad, then the One Ring would have been much easier to obtain!
The Nazgul seemed more terrifying when they were unclad then when they clad. Sauron's tactics were not in order here. If he had sent the Nazgul unclad, then the One Ring would have been much easier to obtain!
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