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Are Valinor, The Grey Havens, and The Undying Lands the same?

WizardKing

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I always wondered if there were the same thing or the same location, and were the once part of the land of aman? please fill me in. i not sure what is what? and what were the locations? thinaks, are these the sames realms that the valar stay?
 
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Originally posted by WizardKing
I always wondered if there were the same thing or the same location, and were the once part of the land of aman? please fill me in. i not sure what is what? and what were the locations? thinaks, are these the sames realms that the valar stay?
Grey Havens is a port from where Elves leave for Valinor from Middle-Earth. It is West of the Shire.

Valinor is the place where Valar lives (and also some Elves).
Tol Eressea is an Island off Valinor where some elves live.

Valinor and Tol Eressea together are called the Undying Lands. All the lands, Middle-Earth, and Undying lands are Aman.
Originally posted by WizardKing
I always wondered if there were the same thing or the same location, and were the once part of the land of aman? please fill me in. i not sure what is what? and what were the locations? thinaks, are these the sames realms that the valar stay?
Grey Havens is a port from where Elves leave for Valinor from Middle-Earth. It is West of the Shire.

Valinor is the place where Valar lives (and also some Elves).
Tol Eressea is an Island off Valinor where some elves live.

Valinor and Tol Eressea together are called the Undying Lands. All the lands, Middle-Earth, and Undying lands are Aman.
 
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Arda --> Aman --> Valinor --> Valmar --> where the Valar live.
Arda --> Middle-earth --> Forlindon --> Mithlond --> where Círdan lives and from where Elves depart from M-e.

Arda: the entire Earth
Aman: a continent that was removed from Arda, where in the land of Valinor (and in the city of Valmar) the Valar dwelt.
Middle-earth: the northern part of the great continent far east of Aman, where the events of the LotR transpire.
Forlindon: the area north of the Gulf of Lhûn (the southern part being Harlindon), where the region of Ossiriand, also called Lindon used to be.
Mithlond: the Grey Havens, where Círdan lives and from where the Elves leave for Valinor on the Straight Path.
 

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