cettepuissance
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first things first, if you offer a suggestion, please cite your sources...It's not that I don't trust you, it's just that when I can't see how you got from point A (english) to point B (quenya), I kinda get annoyed.
And off we go!
English quote:
"There is not so much love in this world that you might waste it on words alone; action is the art of true love."
Elvish translation:
"Ambaresse olya melme uye, ava quete so er, annaite melmeo carme nas care."
English transliteration:
"In the world much love there is not, don't speak of it alone, truest love's art is action."
1.) I was reading "the languages of middle-earth" by Ruth Noel and it stated that quenya can have either SVO, OVS or OSV sentence structure, so I moved things around till i liked the sound of it =]
2.)I used "Ambar" for "world" because its cited as meaning "the realms of man" which seems like a pretty apt description of the Earth.
3.) I used "olya" for "much" as described by helge fauskangar because i'm relatively sure that its used as an adjective to describe "love"...I could be wrong though; "much" could also be an adverb here...anyone know for sure?
4.) "uye" is listed as "there is not" by H. F. hence why i used it here.
5.) "ava quete" for "don't speak" as listed by H. F.
6.) "so" for "of it". This is really a guess. at "http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/quenya.htm" it says that a standalone object pronoun for "it" exists, "sa". This being so, I used the genitive case marker "-o" and used the rules that were used for "vardo tellumar" thus dropping the "a" and adding "-o". However, I question whether or not this is correct because I am not sure whether or not "sa" should be thought of in the genitive...perhaps it is dative or accusative? not sure here...a better translation may be "about it" but I can't remember where "about" falls when it comes to noun cases.
7.) "er" listed as "alone" by H. F. I read in Ruth Noel's book that in Sindarin, adverbs can be placed after the verb they modify, or even at the end of the sentence, so I did that here, though it may be presumptuous of me to use the same structure that Sindarin has for Quenya, but for the life of me I can't find anything that relates to Quenya adverbs.
8.) "annaite" is "truest" using "naite" and then adding the prefix "an-" which gives the "-est" to adjectives as stated by H. F.
9.) H. F. listed "lacare" as the noun "inaction" and also listed "la-" as being a way to negate nouns...from this I deduced that "care" could easily be the noun "action", but once again I may be making wrong assumptions.
well, there you have it. Thoughts? questions? concerns? Let me know because I'm interested to see what others have to say! =]
And off we go!
English quote:
"There is not so much love in this world that you might waste it on words alone; action is the art of true love."
Elvish translation:
"Ambaresse olya melme uye, ava quete so er, annaite melmeo carme nas care."
English transliteration:
"In the world much love there is not, don't speak of it alone, truest love's art is action."
1.) I was reading "the languages of middle-earth" by Ruth Noel and it stated that quenya can have either SVO, OVS or OSV sentence structure, so I moved things around till i liked the sound of it =]
2.)I used "Ambar" for "world" because its cited as meaning "the realms of man" which seems like a pretty apt description of the Earth.
3.) I used "olya" for "much" as described by helge fauskangar because i'm relatively sure that its used as an adjective to describe "love"...I could be wrong though; "much" could also be an adverb here...anyone know for sure?
4.) "uye" is listed as "there is not" by H. F. hence why i used it here.
5.) "ava quete" for "don't speak" as listed by H. F.
6.) "so" for "of it". This is really a guess. at "http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/quenya.htm" it says that a standalone object pronoun for "it" exists, "sa". This being so, I used the genitive case marker "-o" and used the rules that were used for "vardo tellumar" thus dropping the "a" and adding "-o". However, I question whether or not this is correct because I am not sure whether or not "sa" should be thought of in the genitive...perhaps it is dative or accusative? not sure here...a better translation may be "about it" but I can't remember where "about" falls when it comes to noun cases.
7.) "er" listed as "alone" by H. F. I read in Ruth Noel's book that in Sindarin, adverbs can be placed after the verb they modify, or even at the end of the sentence, so I did that here, though it may be presumptuous of me to use the same structure that Sindarin has for Quenya, but for the life of me I can't find anything that relates to Quenya adverbs.
8.) "annaite" is "truest" using "naite" and then adding the prefix "an-" which gives the "-est" to adjectives as stated by H. F.
9.) H. F. listed "lacare" as the noun "inaction" and also listed "la-" as being a way to negate nouns...from this I deduced that "care" could easily be the noun "action", but once again I may be making wrong assumptions.
well, there you have it. Thoughts? questions? concerns? Let me know because I'm interested to see what others have to say! =]
