I said they were alike in mood and character, not in everything
I am sorry, I thought 'mood and character' encompassed everything personality wise.
Denethor, is, to me, such a waste of talent, a tragedy, if I have ever seen one. He was capable of such nobility yet he became one of the worst characters in the
books.
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Denethor II was a proud man, tall, valiant, and more kingly than any man that had appeared in
Gondor for many lives of
men; and he was wise also, and far-sighted, and learned in lore. Indeed he was as like to
Thorongil as to one of nearest kin
And in one matter only were their counsels to the Steward at variance...., when all was made clear, many believed that Denethor, who was subtle in mind and looked further and deeper than other men of his day
But he had a natural mistrust of
Gandalf. Why? I have no idea. Can this be seen as a fault on his part? Not really, not everyone can be expected to get along.
Thorongil often warned
Ecthelion not to put trust in
Saruman the White in
Isengard, but to welcome rather
Gandalf the Grey. But there was little love between Denethor and Gandalf; and after the days of Ecthelion there was less welcome for
the Grey Pilgrim in
Minas Tirith. Therefore later, when all was made clear, many believed that Denethor, who was subtle in mind and looked further and deeper than other men of his day, had discovered who this stranger Thorongil in truth was, and suspected that he and
Mithrandir designed to supplant him
because the
Elves wanted to destroy it, and were able to resist it,
The Elves knew all about
the Ring and it's dangers. Did
Isildur know of the ring or enough of the ring to hinder him?
It seems he had repented of his deeds not long after he took the ring as a wergild for Anarion and
Elendil.
When he at last felt free to return to his own
realm he was in haste, and he wished to go first to
Imladris; for he had left his wife and youngest son there, 3 and he had moreover an urgent need for the counsel of
Elrond
Alas, it is not, senya. I cannot use it. I dread the pain of touching it. 23 And I have not yet found the strength to bend it to my will. It needs one greater than I now know myself to be. My pride has fallen. It should go to the Keepers of the Three
Whether he would have handed the Ring over is another matter entirely.
Quotes from
Disaster of the Gladden Fields.
If Denethor gained the ring, then he would have used it whether at the start of the war or until he had no hope left. Either way
Sauron would have got hold of it.
"Drow", as Starflower is describing them, are not specifically a creation of JRRT, although there may be some incidental relationship between them and the Moriquendi, is that right?
None at all.
Isildur was of true
Numenorean blood. He was from a lineage far greater then any in M-E.
Aragorn can be seen as 'greater' then him (Though he doesn't seem so sure of this at the council). He was said to be akin to Elendur, the person who was most like to Elendil out of all his descendants.
And what about
Sam? Did he have 'Elven-blood'? It wasn't a case of being a
Maia or Elven-blood but a case of will-power. If
Imrahil saw the Ring would he reject the Ring? Another thing,
Faramir never saw the ring,
Boromir did. Of course Faramir passed the test, but sight of the ring may or may not have taken a part in his decisions, as well as his nobility and Boromir's inherent attitude as to how the ring should be used.
but Faramir for sure had no
Elvish blood in him to speak of,
Faramir may have been descended from
Elros. His ancestor,
Hurin, was said to be a man of High Numenorean
race. Therefore it was possible for him to have some Elven blood in him. His mother was
Finduilas who was daughter of
Adrahil, who was descended from Imrazor who was said to have taken Mithrellas, the Silvan
Elf as his wife. They may have been descendents of Elros too, since it is stated they were close kin to Elendil.
