The Black Chasm?

[Greenwood]

Hmmm, seems to me that the Dwarves shouldn't have known any Elvish to be able to put it on the door.

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How if the Elves had never seen or come to Moria before, could it have Elvish words on it? Or is this just me being overly suspicious and picking something out of nothing?

I believe you are mixing up your Middle Earth Ages. The first quote you give comes from The Silmarillion and refers to a time in the First Age. The second quote is Gandalf speaking in LOTR (FOTR) at the end of the Third Age. The friendship that grew up between the elves of Eregion (founded 750 of the Second Age by the Noldor) and the dwarves of Moria happened in the Second Age. It was during that time that the doors were built and the inscription placed on them. The inscription on the door states it was drawn by Celebrimbor, who was killed in the wars with Sauron in 1697 of the Second Age. Thus you have 947 years between the coming of the elves to Eregion and Celebrimbor's death. Even if it took 500 years from the elves arrival to flowering of their friendship with the dwarves and the making of the doors, there is plenty of time. And it was the elves writing on the door, not the dwarves.

 

[Voronwë]

It was merely well-meaning cheekiness from Celembrimbor.

 

[Celebthôl]

I believe you are mixing up your Middle Earth Ages. The first quote you give comes from The Silmarillion and refers to a time in the First Age. The second quote is Gandalf speaking in LOTR (FOTR) at the end of the Third Age. The friendship that grew up between the elves of Eregion (founded 750 of the Second Age by the Noldor) and the dwarves of Moria happened in the Second Age. It was during that time that the doors were built and the inscription placed on them. The inscription on the door states it was drawn by Celebrimbor, who was killed in the wars with Sauron in 1697 of the Second Age. Thus you have 947 years between the coming of the elves to Eregion and Celebrimbor's death. Even if it took 500 years from the elves arrival to flowering of their friendship with the dwarves and the making of the doors, there is plenty of time. And it was the elves writing on the door, not the dwarves.

Right-O. Thought it was too good to be true.

 

[Alatar]

The elves were never fond of dwarf dwellings so (as a laugh/foresight) it was called the black pit. the elves have great foresight and i think that Cel may have senced the Balrog under. though not knowing what it was didn't say "RUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!" or somthing... whatever.
BTW Was Cel born in Middle earth i think he wasn't, but why didn't he take the oath? His dad did????

 

[Ithrynluin]

The elves were never fond of dwarf dwellings so (as a laugh/foresight) it was called the black pit. the elves have great foresight and i think that Cel may have senced the Balrog under. though not knowing what it was didn't say "RUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!" or somthing... whatever.

It would have been quite sneaky and backstabbing of the Elves to withhold that knowledge, wouldn't it? After all, this was the greatest instance of friendship between the Dwarves and Elves that had ever occured. Also, I'm not sure elves could just sense the Balrog like that to begin with, especially since it was supposedly in a dormant state.

BTW Was Cel born in Middle earth i think he wasn't, but why didn't he take the oath? His dad did????

It is said he was estranged from his father, and that he was of a different (read: gentler) mood.

 

[Alcuin]

On Alatar’s behalf, if I may, the “sense” of the Eldar of Eregion might have been that something “down there” was wrong. “Hey, Celebrimbor, we’ve opened a new mithril vein under Caradhras. Come see it! The ore is almost half mithril, and there are actually pure nuggets in some of the underground streams.” “What? That black pit? Oh, well, I suppose so; but don’t douse the torches this time! It isn’t funny! Geez, that place gives me the creeps!”

 

[Alatar]

I didn't say they knew the balrog was there they just senced that there was some evil presence there Celborn said "long have we known that a evil slept under carhadas" and if he a dark elf could sence it then i think that the noldor could sence it better.
"Hey yeh the mines cool but i'm a little queesy down here i'll just wait at the top"
"Elf woss"
"What did you say"
"Nothing"

And if Cel didn't take the oath how embarassing would that would be for his Dad?
And why wasn't there any other little Feanorians running around in Tiron only one...mentioned.
Celborn said "long have we known that a evil slept under carhadas" and if he a dark elf could sence it then i think that the noldor could sence it better.

 

[Greenwood]

Celborn said "long have we known that a evil slept under carhadas" and if he a dark elf could sence it then i think that the noldor could sence it better.

But, Celeborn's comment was made when the Fellowship (minus Gandalf) arrived in Lothlorien, 3019 TA . The dwarves abandoned Moria in 1981 TA after the first appearance of the balrog in 1980 TA; 1038 years before Celeborn's comment. It doesn't take much special sense, or perception, to "know" an "evil slept under Caradhras" over a thousand years after the dwarves were driven out of Moria!

More importantly, you do not give Celeborn's full quote. In speaking to Gimli, Celeborn said: "Alas! We long have feared that under Caradhras a terror slept. But had I known that the Dwarves had stirred up this evil in Moria again, I would have forbidden you to pass the northern borders, you and all that went with you. And if it were possible, one would say that at the last Gandalf fell from wisodom into folly, going needlessly into the net of Moria." [emphasis added] To me, at least, it seems clear that Celeborn is referring to the reawakening of the balrog by Balin and his folk in their attempt to reopen Moria. He is not speaking of any sense of evil under the mountain over a thousand years earlier.