The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power – Teaser Trailer

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Good for him! 😄

 

[Ealdwyn]

Christopher Lee actually met Tolkien, if I remember correctly. He also corrected PJ on what it's like to get stabbed.

That time Christopher Lee taught Peter Jackson the sound a stabbed man makes

www.latimes.com

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I believe he also starred in over 100 films, which has to be an achievement in itself

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

You might (ahem) find this of interest:

https://thetolkien.forum/threads/what-book-are-you-reading-right-now.10249/post-549739

 

[HALETH✒🗡]

Christopher Lee actually met Tolkien, if I remember correctly. He also corrected PJ on what it's like to get stabbed.

That time Christopher Lee taught Peter Jackson the sound a stabbed man makes

www.latimes.com

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"Played in a heavy metal band".

 

[Annatar]

I have a cringe threshold, and it is very, very low! I seriously couldn't stand listening one second longer.

In fact, I overestimated; "Sauron is Hot . . . I could 'fix' him" - 7s, "If Middle Earth had a club - 10s, then I hit stop.

Here, someone has taken the trouble to cut the essence together in 80 seconds:

And here someone has analyzed how much the "superfans" have to do with Tolkien. Spoiler: Nothing.

 

[m4r35n357]

That first (W-bomb) guy gave me the creeps; don't dissent, don't complain, don't be an activist. Oh wait . . . you can complain as much as you like as long as it isn't about anything that matters, like me. Hypocrite!

This should not be turned into passive support for an orcish agenda, there are perfectly good reasons to criticise Amazon, but let's stick to the content eh?

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Let's try to leave the politics to other sites, eh?

 

[Annatar]

Let's try to leave the politics to other sites, eh?

I'm actually also in favor of keeping politics out, and in a forum like this, that's also necessary overall.

Of course, if we want to discuss the series, that can't always work completely, because the main problem with the series is that it's full of current politics, which is now proven not only by the trailer, but also by the "superfan" video.

But I'd also say that this guy Nerdrotic should not be discussed here. I was really only interested in the more or less funny montage at the beginning of the video.
Yes, it may be political too, but I think you can agree here, no matter which political side you personally favor, that it was a lousy and extremely embarrassing propaganda action by Amazon that discredits and mocks all of us Tolkien fans.

Even though I don't really like Peter Jackson's film adaptations, I have to give him credit for his attitude:

"We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren't going to put any of our own politics, our own messages or our own themes into these movies. ... In a way, we were trying to make these films for him, not for ourselves." - Peter Jackson

It's a pity that such a neutral and faithful ambition is apparently no longer possible in modern productions...

What is good though, and to an extent I've never seen before, is that fans around the world are joining together to express their disappointment.

The US teaser currently has 103k upvotes and 143k downvotes.
The UK teaser currently has 23k upvotes and 54k downvotes.

That's pretty extreme and should actually set off an alarm at Amazon. However, it's probably already too late now. All they can really do now is try to limit the damage. I wouldn't be surprised if they try everything in the next trailer to appease the book connoisseurs.
But maybe I'm wrong and this is all already factored in and the book connoisseurs or even the Jackson movie fans aren't important enough to make profit? Or - attention, conspiracy theory 😜 - it's not about making profit at all.

 

[m4r35n357]

Let's try to leave the politics to other sites, eh?

That was the point I started out making . . . world events, you know.

I have edited that post.

 

[Olorgando]

Even though I don't really like Peter Jackson's film adaptations, I have to give him credit for his attitude:
"We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren't going to put any of our own politics, our own messages or our own themes into these movies. ... In a way, we were trying to make these films for him, not for ourselves." - Peter Jackson

Unfortunately, in the light of some of the changes he did make on very fundamental themes, I'd now have to call him a liar to his face.👿

 

[Annatar]

Unfortunately, in the light of some of the changes he did make on very fundamental themes, I'd now have to call him a liar to his face.👿

While that is true, he has actually largely succeeded in leaving current politics out of it.

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

neutral and faithful

I'd have to say the last is a debatable judgement -- as you can see in innumerable old threads here. 😁

 

[m4r35n357]

Unfortunately, in the light of some of the changes he did make on very fundamental themes, I'd now have to call him a liar to his face.👿

If PJ can take the moral high ground here, Amazon should be worried!

 

[Annatar]

I'd have to say the last is a debatable judgement -- as you can see in innumerable old threads here. 😁

Yes, I know, I said myself that I was not satisfied with the result.
But - if he didn't deliberately lie - the will was there at least initially, which is not the case at all with Amazon.
I am the last person who would come to PJ's defense, but against what is currently happening, he seems like a saint. 🎅

 

[Olorgando]

While that is true, he has actually largely succeeded in leaving current politics out of it.

Fellowship premiered about three months after 9/11. The only thing flying around in LoTR were the Nazgûl on their fell beasts ... (and Gandalf on an Eagle a couple of times).

 

[Annatar]

Fellowship premiered about three months after 9/11. The only thing flying around in LoTR were the Nazgûl on their fell beasts ... (and Gandalf on an Eagle a couple of times).

But part 2 was called "The Two Towers" 😜

 

[Olorgando]

I am the last person who would come to PJ's defense, but against what is currently happening, he seems like a saint. 🎅

IIRC, LoTR, and especially RoTK - broke new ground on CGI. And all involved in the LoTR project beginning in the late 1990's were at least professional film-makers - of that bygone era (they started out in the previous millennium!!! ). The CGI overkill era began after that - or with it. Never having watched anything by Amazon Prime, I can't judge their stuff - except from mainly negative posts here, at second-hand.

 

[Olorgando]

But part 2 was called "The Two Towers" 😜

Yeah; they actually used the titles of the volumes, from over 45 years earlier. Are you saying JRRT was clairvoyant?

 

[Annatar]

IIRC, LoTR, and especially RoTK - broke new ground on CGI. And all involved in the LoTR project beginning in the late 1990's were at least professional film-makers - of that bygone era (they started out in the previous millennium!!! ). The CGI overkill era began after that - or with it.

I suspect that many (young) people place great value on good CGI effects, but to be honest, that interests me only marginally. I want a coherent story. And if it's labeled "Middle-earth", I want to feel at least a bit of the Tolkien spirit and not be mocked as a book fan by movie-authors who are actually bunglers and/or political activists. With the published pictures, the interviews/articles and the teaser (including that "superfan" cringe propaganda) I can't be optimistic any more, unfortunately.

Concerning CGI: Just that scene where Galadriel jumps around vertically on those blocks of ice with her dagger is so stupid and badly done. This is just as bad as those constant jump 'n run video game scenes in The Hobbit.

Never having watched anything by Amazon Prime, I can't judge their stuff - except from mainly negative posts here, at second-hand.

Then I'd recommend you to take a look at the "Wheel of Time" series. An absolute disaster, in every sense! Even 90's Xena would be ashamed of that.

Are you saying JRRT was clairvoyant?

Yes, he at least knew that a great many Sarumans and Orcs would come...

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

90's Xena

Really? Xena? 😳