I mean, it is to be expected, in another thread on here someone mentioned the media treating him returning as the Second Coming of Christ. It is rather unfortunate, yes.Too bad too bad Peter Jackson has co-opted J.R.R. Tolkien to such a point that the perception is he has to be involved in any Middle Earth adaptation for it to be 'any good'. I knew that was going to happen back in '01. Oh well, hoping War of the Rohirrim is good despite his involvement. Looking forward to it.
Hehe, could be! 😂 I had thought this movie was going to focus mostly on Helm Hammerhand himself in the conflict, but apparently his daughter will be the lead role instead.or are we going to have the second movie of Brave instead of Tolkien?
Agreed. I’m not against her in general. She could be quite a pleasant and endearing character to root for as the lead, for all I know. I’m just concerned because much of Hollywood nowadays makes their female characters so overpowering and dominant, for the sake of “strong, powerful women.” Please no. Not here.
Well, I hope they at least stick close to the lore, even if she's just a nameless girl. It could be the story told from her pov.🤷🏻♀️She isn't even named in the Appendices. The only thing we know about her is that Freca wanted her to be married to his son Wulf. But Helm didn't like that idea, so he killed Freca. After that she isn't mentioned again.
I wouldn't be concerned about that.
So this is how it works. If we don't like s suitor for our offspring, we just kill them off. Hhmmmm...But Helm didn't like that idea, so he killed Freca.
A Thingol wannabe?So this is how it works. If we don't like a suitor for our offspring, we just kill them off. Hhmmmm...
How violent. Sounds about right for the species.
Well, she's not a nameless girl, at least in the movie.Well, I hope they at least stick close to the lore, even if she's just a nameless girl. It could be the story told from her pov.🤷🏻♀️
But I don't think people in the movie business give it that much thought.Old English hær "hair, a hair," from Proto-Germanic *hēran (source also of Old Saxon, Old Norse, Old High German har, Old Frisian her, Dutch and German haar "hair"), perhaps from PIE *ghers- "to stand out, to bristle, rise to a point"
That is such a perfect spot within the Lore to develop one's own story and not directly getting into conflict with the canon. You can develop a somewhat 'average' female lead, that isn't as powerful a being like Galadriel would be, avoiding the kind of obnoxiously 'powerful' characters @Fingon_Findekáno described, and tell the story from her perspective, graciously ignoring the lack of female leads in Middle-Earth. The Setting of the Story is relatable for 'normal' movie goers that don't lurk around online Fantasy Forums since names like Helm, Rohan and Dunlendings are all familiar due to their mentioning in the PJ Adaptations. And Helms Story, even though well known, doesn't go into too much detail, so that it acts more like a framework than the real content of the movie itself, leaving a lot of room for creativity. This, paired with an animation style that guarantees the movie's aesthetics to detach at least somewhat from the creative vision of Peter Jackson, gives me really high hopes for an excellent Tolkien Adaptation I haven't seen for years but always wished for.She isn't even named in the Appendices. The only thing we know about her is that Freca wanted her to be married to his son Wulf. But Helm didn't like that idea, so he killed Freca. After that she isn't mentioned again.
Maybe the reason the species survived is because upright honourable Fathers whacked loser suitors... you know, like culling the gene pool in advance.So this is how it works. If we don't like s suitor for our offspring, we just kill them off. Hhmmmm...
How violent. Sounds about right for the species.
↑ This person gets it ↑ Personally I'll go see this and enjoy it for what it is, like I did the Bakshi project, the PJ projects, and RoP projects.That is such a perfect spot within the Lore to develop one's own story and not directly getting into conflict with the canon. You can develop a somewhat 'average' female lead, that isn't as powerful a being like Galadriel would be, avoiding the kind of obnoxiously 'powerful' characters Fingon_Findekáno described, and tell the story from her perspective, graciously ignoring the lack of female leads in Middle-Earth. The Setting of the Story is relatable for 'normal' movie goers that don't lurk around online Fantasy Forums since names like Helm, Rohan and Dunlendings are all familiar due to their mentioning in the PJ Adaptations. And Helms Story, even though well known, doesn't go into too much detail, so that it acts more like a framework than the real content of the movie itself, leaving a lot of room for creativity. This, paired with an animation style that guarantees the movie's aesthetics to detach at least somewhat from the creative vision of Peter Jackson, gives me really high hopes for an excellent Tolkien Adaptation I haven't seen for years but always wished for.
Hey, I’m not against the movie. I’m actually quite looking forward to it as well, and I do plan to go see it when it comes to theaters this December. I’m excited to see another LOTR movie being done, exploring this significant time period in Rohan’s history, and I’m confident this style of anime will lend itself beautifully to Middle-Earth. As the premier date draws closer later this year, I will be counting down the days!Seriously people. There has to be some creative license taken here to fill in the blanks Tolkien left. The nit-picking about the origins of names and such is a really deep level of anality really. I like seeing everyone's "take" on it and their "opinions" that really show what the writers of said opinions are all about. Love it! 🤣
Very well said, my friend.That is such a perfect spot within the Lore to develop one's own story and not directly getting into conflict with the canon. You can develop a somewhat 'average' female lead, that isn't as powerful a being like Galadriel would be, avoiding the kind of obnoxiously 'powerful' characters @Fingon_Findekáno described, and tell the story from her perspective, graciously ignoring the lack of female leads in Middle-Earth. The Setting of the Story is relatable for 'normal' movie goers that don't lurk around online Fantasy Forums since names like Helm, Rohan and Dunlendings are all familiar due to their mentioning in the PJ Adaptations. And Helms Story, even though well known, doesn't go into too much detail, so that it acts more like a framework than the real content of the movie itself, leaving a lot of room for creativity. This, paired with an animation style that guarantees the movie's aesthetics to detach at least somewhat from the creative vision of Peter Jackson, gives me really high hopes for an excellent Tolkien Adaptation I haven't seen for years but always wished for.
For me personally, I was really looking forward to RoP, but the quality really sucked, other than it being unfaithful to the lore. Awful casting, lame main characters and dialogues and everything. The story had no consistency with its own lore, let alone Tolkien. PJ movies aren't faithful either, but I love them all because they had what RoP lacked in many places. I'm looking forward to this one too, just to see if there's any hope of ever seeing the Silm as an animation one day.↑ This person gets it ↑ Personally I'll go see this and enjoy it for what it is, like I did the Bakshi project, the PJ projects, and RoP projects.
Screenplay for all the 'lets stick to the lore' folk. Named dude wants to marry unnamed girl. Named father don't like named dude wanting to marry his unnamed daughter so he kills him. The end. Yeah, let's make a movie of that.
Seriously people. There has to be some creative license taken here to fill in the blanks Tolkien left. The nit-picking about the origins of names and such is a really deep level of anality really. I like seeing everyone's "take" on it and their "opinions" that really show what the writers of said opinions are all about. Love it! 🤣
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