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Were the 💀Nazgul kind of weak?

Originally posted by pohuist
I would qualify Olog-hai as super-trolls (as opposed to just a new, more advanced, superior breed/generation), if their qualities vs. trolls will be similar as superman vs. man

Spiderman cant fly, would you call him super???
 
first off-i agree with pohuist. being superior does not mean being super. If one bird is superior over others at catching worms does it mean that he should be oggled for being a super bird.
 
Originally posted by Anamatar IV
first off-i agree with pohuist. being superior does not mean being super. If one bird is superior over others at catching worms does it mean that he should be oggled for being a super bird.

Well it seems that we all understand eachothers points. I see no point trying to convince anyone that they are wrong...because no one is wrong. It's a matter of how quick one is to use that word super.
 
yeah but the olog-hai are not just superior in one aspect. If this particular bird was smarter, stronger, faster, harder and could swim, would you call it a super bird then??
That is the same changes as the olog-hai (with swim being replaced by move in sunlight)
 
Originally posted by Confusticated


Well it seems that we all understand eachothers points. I see no point trying to convince anyone that they are wrong...because no one is wrong. It's a matter of how quick one is to use that word super.

Ok i will settle for that! Hows aboot we chat aboot the ringwraiths again??
 
Fine with me.
UT is "the book of Unfinished Tales of numenor and middle-earth" by J.R.R.T. Makes an excellent reading. Answers many questions about LOTR. You may find particurlarly interesting the chapter "The Hunt for the Ring" which, among other things, discusses ringwraiths and them being afraid of water.
 
Are the nazgul saurons best warriors

yes they are--they are so powerful that people cant even fight them. Almost invincible.
 
Dark_wraith, I use the quotes to help you and now I use the quotes to hinder you.
 
Okay, I'll jump into this conversation....

The Ringwraiths (a/k/a Nazgul), in my opinion, are indeed frightening characters, by virtue of their wickedness, their "wraithness" (so, I coined a word ), and their desire to do the will of Sauron, regardless of what death & destruction they might bring about.

Yes, they COULD be foiled--as evidenced by the events at the Ford of Rivendell and when unseated from their winged mounts (one of my favorite phrases came from a description of the Lord of the Nazgul's flying beast: "...and it stank...")--still they were formidable, and not to be trifled with.

The only reason Eowyn and Merry triumphed over the Lord of the Nazgul on the Pelennor Field was that the prophecy of his demise stated that he could not be killed by mortal man. It took a woman and a Hobbit to do the job (bet that put a wrinkle in the old Nazgul's pantyhose, eh?).

Let's just say I wouldn't want to meet a Ringwraith if I were out and about on a dark night! EEEEEEKKKKKK!!!
 
I had always assumed that the Nazgul, being "unnatural", feared and were opposed to natural forces in Middle Earth (i.e., water, fire). That this is why they did not hurry to cross the Bruinen.

Also, that the river was the barrier to a elven realm, and that Ulmo never truly forsook the waters of Arda.
 
they were going to cross! Frodo and the ringwraiths were on opposite banks and the wraiths were beckoning frodo to come back. When frodo refused they stepped into the ford and started crossing. But---when an enemy crosses the ford, the ford floods.
 
but the 3 were gonna cross the river. They started crossing then the boulders and horses and waves trampled them. Then the other 5 drove the last 6 nazgul into the flood/
 
I don't think they could have made it across the water. The Witch-King, as was proven already, could withstand water and even fire far better than any of the other Nazgûl, so he might have made it; another thing we must remember is that the Ring, the relic to which Sauron's (and therefore their) power and life-force were bound, was very close at hand. This might have made the Nazgûl a bit more resistant to the things they were 'allergic' to.
 
but they coundnt have crossed anyways. If the ford hadnt flooded of course they could cross and kill frodo and raid rivindell and all that.
 
oh right i didnt read my post until just now!! lol. Yeah i know that they did actually try but i always assumed it was the elves that made them hesitate rather than the water.

I didnt know that the river flooded EVERY time an enemy tried to cross. I thought it was just elrond and gandalf who made it happen that 1 time to get frodo across. Still i think that the witch king could have got across.

If i was the witch king, and the ring was a KFC bargain bucket, i dont even think gandalf and elrond could have kept me back!!!
 
gandalf and elrond made it extra forceful. I have a horrible headache from being in the guild of outcasts all night and im too lazy to look it up.
 
Here you go Anamatar IV.
 
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