What did 🧙gandalf mean (different thread)

[Anamatar IV]

in the two towers gandalf said I come to you now as the tide turns or something like that. Did he mean that everything was going the west way until now and sauron had the upper lip? Or that the west was failing until then and would soon overcome the evil?

 

[Bombadillo]

remember that sarumans bond with sauron was discovered,
the nine will reappear in not to much time, and if gandalf wasn't there the whole world would have fallen in the hands of sauron.

 

[Anamatar IV]

so the tides were turning for the west?

 

[Ceorl]

Before this point very little acts of war had occured in the book. This part of the book was when the deadlock was finally broken; Saruman was forced to play his hand and Aragorn forced Sauron to do the same. Remember Gandalf had just been to Valinor and who knows what wisdom and knowledge of what was to come was given him there, perhaps even by Mandos or Manwe himself?

 

[Thorondor_]

Re: Whatd gandalf mean (different thread)

He didn't go to Valinor, he went beyond "thought and time", and he wasnt sent back by the god's, but by the Authority - Eru.

 

[Meselyn]

Gandalf means that up until that time Sauron, and Saruman were winning. Though by the "tides turning" the good guys were winning.

 

[Eledhwen]

Does he actually say that in the book? I don't remember.

 

[Astran]

Gandalf means that up until that time Sauron, and Saruman were winning. Though by the "tides turning" the good guys were winning.

Yes, he's needed more badly somewhere else, to turn the tide... Then he'll come back to accompany Frodo