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Which are the Two Towers?

What is the combonation of "The Two Towers"

  • Barad Dur and Minas Tirith

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • Barad Dur and Orthanc

    Votes: 17 34.7%
  • Orthanc and Minas Tirith

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Orthanc and Minas Morgul

    Votes: 19 38.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 6.1%

  • Total voters
    49
I feel that which Two Towers it is redundant. considering it means nothing to the plot. Tolkein hated giving away the storyline of a book through the Title, so he called Books 1 and 2 Fellowship of the RIng, cause what the **** does that tell you? And The Two Towers, again no information about the book is given. Tolkein was very much against the idea of calling the 3rd book Return of the King, but the Publishers had already decided that as the title. The Two Towers can be any two towers you want them to be. I however feel the two towers are Orthanc and Minas Morgul, the towers of the star(?) and moon, considering that a tower with a star over it and a tower with a moon over it was the original book cover. Also it has the White Hand and the Eye underneath
See: http://www.tolkien.co.uk/images/downloads/wallpaper/tt_1280x1024.jpg
 
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The problem is that all combination are possible.

1st) Barad-dur/Orthanc (The two evil towers)

2nd) Barad-dur/Minas Tirith (Opposite towers)

3rd) Orthanc/Minas Tirith (the same as above)

But before I read this discussion I thought it was Orthanc and Barad-dur, though now I am not so sure about it.
 

Interesting...I've never seen that cover. My set of books have pictures from the movies on them and my "Big Book" of LOTR definitely has Barad-dur on it.

I wonder how much input Tolkien himself had with that cover or was it something the publisher came up with? It's interesting because on the left side it definitely looks like Minas Morgul.., which was once Minas Ithil "Tower of the Moon". There's the moon above the tower and the earth below is black (symbolizing evil?)... and there's the red eye...

On the right side it looks to be Orthanc, and the white hand of Saruman is underneath. I'm wondering what the star represents ..Osgiliath is the "Fortress of the Stars"... Orthanc is "Forked Height"..Hmmm..

Now to add to the confusion...


Well..If Tolkien himself said it was Orthanc and the Tower of Cirth Ungol I think that pretty much confirms it.

But then again, there's that book cover which Tolkien was said to have sketched and I tend to think Minas Morgul and Orthanc...

Before seeing that cover and reading about Tolkien's letter I was inclined to think of the "The Two Towers" as Barad-dur and Orthanc.

I guess I'm inclined to go with Orthanc and the tower of Cirith Ungol because these towers are featured in the book and heck, Tolkien did make mention of them.
 
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I think that's enough
 
I think that's enough.
Seriously, i think that it is orthanc, and Minas morgul(which i think should have a tower, Barad Morgul, Barad Tirith..) as it the book is about saruman, and the reaching the stairs.
Btw, that quote was from the fellowship.
 
Ok, I haven't added a poll to this thread. (waits for everybody to check the top of the page again )

I have merged RD's thread (which did include a poll) into it
 
I'm sorry if this has been stated before. I didn't bother to read the seventeen pages of discussion on which towers they are. I did read the first couple, and the latest-that was enough for me.

I think Tolkien purposefully titled it The Two Towers with no specific two towers in mind. As a sort of gimmick. So that we could discuss it for days on end... Heh.
 
(sorry also if this has been said already)

I always thought it was Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul (the towers of Guard and Sorcery), formerly Minas Anor and Minas Ithil (the towers of Sun and Moon). Anor and Ithil would have been great strongholds in their time, named by Elendil for his two sons Isildur and Anarion. Then, in the third age they were both changed by the times, one now a place of stronghold of evil and the other, although still kept by the Numenorien rulers (or at least waiting for their rulers to return ), a shadow of it's former glory. Then, after the return of the king, both fortresses were reclaimed by king Elessar.
 
Here's a qoute from The Return of the King Chapter 10: The Black Gate opens to liven up the arguments here.
... and now near loomed the great rampart of Cirith Gorgor, and the Black Gate amidmost, and the two Towers of the Teeth tall and dark upon either side...
Whatdya think?
 
I just finished FOTR again this afternoon, and this is what is says on the last page. I had never noticed it before, but I had the forum in mind. It says:


"Here ends the first part of the history of the War of the Ring. The second part is called THE TWO TOWERS, since the events recounted in it are dominated by ORTHANC, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of MINAS MORGUL, that guards the secret entrance to Mordor; it tells of the deeds and perils of all the members of the now sundered fellowship, until the coming of the great darkness."


Therein lies the answer.
 
But this thread is about the Two Towers, not the LotR. If it were about LotR, there would be innumerable choices for the two towers. And if it is said in the LotR, then it's correct. That said, Minas Morgul and Orthanc are the Two Towers.
 
Is that enough?
 
A Tolkien approved quote, and published in The Lord of the Rings...


"Here ends the first part of the history of the War of the Ring. The second part is called THE TWO TOWERS, since the events recounted in it are dominated by ORTHANC, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of MINAS MORGUL, that guards the secret entrance to Mordor; it tells of the deeds and perils of all the members of the now sundered fellowship, until the coming of the great darkness."


And already posted too, but perhaps not yet in this colour

Galin
 
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