Why wasn't Glorfindel included in the Lord of the Rings films?

jlday said:

My sister and I are sooo ticked off that Glorfindel wasn't in the movie. He saved
Frodo! Not Arwen!

Whoever agrees with me please reply!

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I agree I have watched the movie a lot and all I can say is now that I have read the book what was P.J thinking Tolkien said it was Glorfindel and Arwen bearly got mentioned in the first book!!!!

faramir1127 said:

Actually, there ARE some very valid reasons why LOTR, if translated near-perfectly from the printed page to the big screen, would not have had the same appeal among people who had never read the novels. Some books work really well when transferred near-perfectly onto the big (or small) screen, while some things don't. LOTR is one of those things that wouldn't have worked. It is way, way too massive in its scope. Jackson needed to change/omit some things to create a story that could appeal to both the fans and non-fans. Also, you can't fairly compare Harry Potter to LOTR because HP is not nearly as massive in scope and construction as LOTR, which means that it is much easier for the HP novels to be translated near-perfectly onto the big screen.

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When you say stuff like that it makes die hard book fans want to punch you in the face ok so omit the stories and the songs that they tell/sing omit the days of training and the months of sitting not only in rivendell but also the month of sitting on their buts in lothlorion skip the feasting forget about the fact that they walked for 4 days in moria forget that it took a week to reach the forest of lothlorion forget that it took another week just to make it to the city at the heart of the woods forget about the fact frodo bore a shard of the witch kings blade in his shoulder for 17 days before reaching imladris forget that Aragorn got lost on the way to imladris ALL of that stuff is in the book for a reason and I get how that stuff doesn't all fit into the movie but for the love of sanity Glorfindel rescued frodo NOT Arwen

Gandalf White said:

First off, I really can't see nearly everyone who worked on LotR being huge Tolkien fans, one would think they would have swayed it closer to the books.

Dear Lord, please don't let MM or joxy find this post.

Many of the changes were unnecessary! Period. There is no denying it. You want a big example? Theoden. Give me one good reason why they changed his character to a manic-depressive old man, so willing to abandon Aragorn at every chance? Why? There simply is none.

Ahem, pardon the rant. Also, please don't mistake my true allegiance. I am a die-hard movie fan, but I admit there are changes, quite a few to the detriment of the films.

You can see my argument agreeing with the substitution of Arwen above.

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or Aragorn his personality is mistchivius when u first meet him in the book

... not to mention that PJ decimated Aragorn's whole backstory since he didn't even mention the Northern Kingdom at all. There is no reason for him to "choose exile" if the proper story was told.
... and it wouldn't of been that hard to have added it to the movie storyline. PJ could have easily worked it in, had Glorfindel in the movie, and have expanded Arwen's role as part of a fanfic.
... 'how' you ask? Have Aragorn and Halbarad at the Prancing Pony having a brief conversation setting the Northern Kingdom, have Glorfindel meet Aragorn and the Hobbits and take the wounded Frodo for a ride, and have Arwen join her brothers in their ride south with the Dunedain Rangers.

Halasían said:

... not to mention that PJ decimated Aragorn's whole backstory since he didn't even mention the Northern Kingdom at all. There is no reason for him to "choose exile" if the proper story was told.
... and it wouldn't of been that hard to have added it to the movie storyline. PJ could have easily worked it in, had Glorfindel in the movie, and have expanded Arwen's role as part of a fanfic.
... 'how' you ask? Have Aragorn and Halbarad at the Prancing Pony having a brief conversation setting the Northern Kingdom, have Glorfindel meet Aragorn and the Hobbits and take the wounded Frodo for a ride, and have Arwen join her brothers in their ride south with the Dunedain Rangers.

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I like u you expressed my feelings exactly

Halasían said:

... not to mention that PJ decimated Aragorn's whole backstory since he didn't even mention the Northern Kingdom at all. There is no reason for him to "choose exile" if the proper story was told.
... and it wouldn't of been that hard to have added it to the movie storyline. PJ could have easily worked it in, had Glorfindel in the movie, and have expanded Arwen's role as part of a fanfic.
... 'how' you ask? Have Aragorn and Halbarad at the Prancing Pony having a brief conversation setting the Northern Kingdom, have Glorfindel meet Aragorn and the Hobbits and take the wounded Frodo for a ride, and have Arwen join her brothers in their ride south with the Dunedain Rangers.

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Also they never even mentioned the twins

17 years! This is the kind of thing we need more of!

I am contractually obligated to post in a Glorfindel thread.

So thanks!

Elthir said:

I am contractually obligated to post in a Glorfindel thread.

So thanks!

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I shudder to think what eldtrich lord wrote up such a contract.....




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Newt12 said:

Also they never even mentioned the twins

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Nah they aren't mentioned. One could surmise that it may have been them seated with elrond at the council?

Halasían said:

Nah they aren't mentioned. One could surmise that it may have been them seated with elrond at the council?

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Wasn't one of those elves Erestor which our own Erestor has as profile pic though?

I'll have to look into this....


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Nooo! Don't go there! You'll be sorrry!

Squint-eyed Southerner said:

17 years! This is the kind of thing we need more of!

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I think any thread started at the time of the movies would be at least 17 years old!

"Forgive" my curmudgeonly snarl, but wasn't the huge mass of posts of the time "perpetrated" by teenie film geeks? Not surprisingly, I would add ...

Yes, Erestor was mentioned at the Council of Elrond. He asked whether Tom Bombadil would take the Ring or not. Then at the end of ROTK, he accompanied Arwen to Mina's Tirith.

First mention:

He then pointed out and named those whom Frodo had not met before. There was a younger dwarf at Glóin’s side: his son Gimli. Beside Glorfindel there were several other counsellors of Elrond’s household, of whom Erestor was the chief; and with him was Galdor, an Elf from the Grey Havens who had come on an errand from Círdan the Shipwright.

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