The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power – Teaser Trailer

[Annatar]

And even Hercules!!!

As well as their sidekicks.

 

[Olorgando]

Then I'd recommend you to take a look at the "Wheel of Time" series. An absolute disaster, in every sense! Even 90's Xena would be ashamed of that.

"You cannot be serious!" (© John McEnroe at Wimbledon 1981).
I hardly watch any TV anymore, not even stuff other people enthuse above. And you're "recommending" what you basically personally consider 💩?

Ah, no.

 

[Annatar]

And you're "recommending" what you basically personally consider 💩?

😹

In contrast to MrNumbers, I probably have an extremely high level of cringe tolerance. I even enjoy it in a strange way. As a German, you should know this awkward hobby as "Fremdschämen". (Which, by the way, is the recipe for the success of all these trash TV formats. And which could also be the reason that this series may still be successful.)
But if you absolutely want to give this Amazon Rings of Power series another chance, the Wheel of Time should definitely be viewed beforehand in order to be prepared for all perversities: It can only get better.

 

[Halasían]

Let's try to leave the politics to other sites, eh?

... if we want to discuss the series, that can't always work completely, because the main problem with the series is that it's full of current politics, which is now proven not only by the trailer, but also by the "superfan" video.

Seriously? Yes, you are... I'm sure. It is only 'proven' in the minds of people who have a certain bias that 'anything new has a political agenda', therefore, they 'cant keep politics out of it'. It was the point I made in my shut-down thread. Anyway, you guys got quite the echo chamber going on here. Have fun with it.

 

[Annatar]

Really, if not even the "superfans" video is proof for you, there is no need for any serious discussion.
Are you also a superfan? 😹
Try to check your own echo chamber. What do you think of the amount of dislikes? Have you read the books by JRRT??? I'm trying not to get angry right now....
But didn't we actually want to end political discussions?

In any case, I think it's a great pity that the division in society is now apparently being continued among us Tolkien fans on purpose, but I'm also proud that so many are already fighting back against this sacrilege, as you can see from the dislikes of the trailers (if you have the Chrome addon installed).

And as already said, no matter whether left or right, what Amazon is putting in front of us will be total trash either way. If you don't want to believe it now, you'll have to be disappointed later. You'll find out when you stop lying to yourself.

What is important now is that we get together, regardless of any political differences, to send a signal that they are on the wrong track. Maybe we can still achieve something with it.

What we don't want is Tolkien to be desecrated, and we should all stand together not only on YouTube but here as well.

 

[m4r35n357]

In contrast to MrNumbers,

Behave yourself, Anna!

 

[Olorgando]

In contrast to MrNumbers,

Behave yourself, Anna!

Hasn't anyone noticed that the most obvious shorthand for our esteemed member's TTF name is "M", made easier by the wide-spread Ian Fleming baggage?
@m4r35n357 : choosing a name can be fraught with peril - I'll just refer you to Johnny Cash's perhaps best-known song, "A Boy Named Sue" (written by Shel Silverstein, a grand master at the art of satirical poems / songs). 😁

 

[Olorgando]

'anything new has a political agenda'

There's another stream of thought that started about just after the end of WW I, so over 100 years ago, and which has been disproved far too often to record:
"Anything new is good". Specifically new things in the 1920's were Lenin's Communists consolidating power in what then became the Soviet Union, Mussolini's rise to power in Italy, Hitler's movement that needed a few years longer ...
As far as literature is concerned I know hardly anything - except that not a few critics of LoTR at it's first publication, mainly modernists, if I got that right (isms ... 🤮 ) didn't notice that they were contradicting themselves, often their own earlier writings.
I really don't know what Amazon (Bezos?) tried to accomplish with that "Superfan" clip. I can sympathize that they all felt themselves marginalized in mainstream media (though they all seem so young that I want to remind them of what their parents (grandparents?) were up against decades earlier - I lived on the US 1966-75, a wholly different world from today; though I am wondering if it is not now regressing to a decidedly uglier earlier era). What puzzles me is that Amazon should be among the Internet-savvy companies (there are tons of them that ain't!). So they didn't realize that it would be so easy, all of these "Superfans" having been quite active in the Internet (apparently including some dubious outlets) for people to call out and destroy their faux "Superfan" status? Has nobody pointed out to Amazon (and perhaps Bezos) how many copies of that "paleolithic" wood-pulp-based information receptacle, aka "book" have been sold? My only experience with the company was of them being an Internet bookseller!!!!! Are corporate attention spans reaching the nanosecond threshold???

 

[m4r35n357]

Hasn't anyone noticed that the most obvious shorthand for our esteemed member's TTF name is "M", made easier by the wide-spread Ian Fleming baggage?

Also, hasn't anyone noticed that typing @m4 will give you a clickable link? It is a feature of virtually every forum on the internet. That nick has been chosen for a very good reason, and I really don't expect it to be questioned or ridiculed here!

Also, consider that the "laziness" of typing the same two words instead of the real thing is no accident - twice!

Also, consider that it is rarely necessary to actually use a nick in the text, we have quoting for that!

And yes, I remember that song very well

 

[Halasían]

What we don't want is Tolkien to be desecrated, and we should all stand together not only on YouTube but here as well.

"we" ...
🤣

Unlike the ravenous hordes who are desecrating Tolkien by dogpiling on the anti-project bandwagon, I will reserve judgement on the finished project, not on youtube opinions cyber-bot conspiracy campaigns about it. I believe the creators and the Tolkien Estate people are doing well to get this done in the shadow of such vitriol being espoused by your "we" ilk.

 

[Aldarion]

"we" ...
🤣

Unlike the ravenous hordes who are desecrating Tolkien by dogpiling on the anti-project bandwagon, I will reserve judgement on the finished project, not on youtube opinions cyber-bot conspiracy campaigns about it. I believe the creators and the Tolkien Estate people are doing well to get this done in the shadow of such vitriol being espoused by your "we" ilk.

You mean, the same project that is inviting "Tolkien superfans" who had never, in fact, read anything written by Tolkien? One would even think said "ravenous hordes" are concerned about Amazon not actually caring about Tolkien's work...

 

[Olorgando]

... I believe the creators and the Tolkien Estate people are doing well to get this done ...

Has the Tolkien Estate weighed in in any form in this discussion yet?

 

[Halasían]

No Aldarion, that is what you want it to mean.

Gando, they have people actively working with the producers.

Anyway, I found this interesting article on the 'diversity' issue.

 

[Aldarion]

No Aldarion, that is what you want it to mean.

No, it is what it means. Amazon is even photoshopping people out of their videos, Stalin-style, presumably for saying something that disagreed with their vision.

 

[Olorgando]

Gando, they have people actively working with the producers.
Anyway, I found this interesting article on the 'diversity' issue.

That would be more than they did on PJ's projects. Do you know of any articles about this working with Amazon?

EA provided a link to the Tolkien Estate Homepage in this new thread ...

https://thetolkien.forum/threads/un...s-photographs-and-video-clips-released.30140/

At least a first brief glance seems to indicate they're not commenting on the Amazon production.
Also nothing about PJ's two projects, for that matter.
I do find it remarkable that both production outfits have the same rights, and not a shred more ...

 

[Halasían]

No, it is what it means.

🤣
No, it is clearly what you think it means, not what I think it means. Your 'George' youtube video is laughable by the way.

Gando, they are probably wise in not making any commentary as it only feeds this slagger cult. I really wonder what they all are so afraid of.

 

[Aldarion]

No, it is clearly what you think it means, not what I think it means. Your 'George' youtube video is laughable by the way.

Laughable in what way? I don't think anything can be more laughable than what Amazon is doing (when it isn't simply sad, anyway).

 

[m4r35n357]

Anyway, I found this interesting article on the 'diversity' issue.

So slagging off the series is racist now? Keep working at that straw man!

Please don't cancel us

 

[Halasían]

Who said anything about racism Mr Numbers? Oh, yes, you just did. The only ones trying to 'cancel' anything around here are you who can't even give this project a chance and just have to spend so much of your time tearing it down. What a sad existence. Oh well. So what happened to the Russian cyberbot posting all the conspiracy stuff? At least their posts were fun to read.

 

[Aldarion]

Who said anything about racism

Amazon's showrunners, for one. It is their default response to any and all criticism of the series.