Beren and 🧝Luthien: the movie

[CirdanLinweilin]

If the Powers That Be ever allow it... I have only one suggestion:

KEEP IT AS FAR AWAY FROM PJ AS POSSIBLE.

We all know how CT felt about the movies, and The Tolkien Estate, if ever, would only allow it if someone came in with a vision for the source material as close to John Ronald Reuel's as possible. I'd much prefer a series, not a movie.

Bring in a new team who'd actually be faithful to the source material. That's all I ask.

Oh, and don't Hollywood-ize it with unnecessary sex, violence, or cursing. (Now that I think about it, that's too high a bar for Hollywood....) Oh well.

At least we get Beren and Luthien in Hardcover this May.

CL

 

[Starbrow]

I always thought of Luthien as having black hair and fair skin.

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

I always thought of Luthien as having black hair and fair skin.

I did as well. She is an Elf. And aren't Elves typically known to have fair skin? That seems to be the norm.

Here's her page on Tolkien Gateway, with some art of her: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Luthien

CL

 

[Halasían]

I do like Aerankai's interpretation of Luthien in their art. The rest of the Luthien art on the TG page is... meh.
I do not see her with spikes coming out of her head.

Here is my friend Jaymasee in a 'Beren and Luthien' photoshoot she did with her boyfriend Simone.

And hoping for a good remake of the movies to be done again in my lifetime.

 

[Durandir]

I did as well. She is an Elf. And aren't Elves typically known to have fair skin? That seems to be the norm.
CL

Well, they stem from northern european myths, so, probably yes. But:

Looks fair enough to me. It's probably only a matter of make-up. And technically, she's half elven half Maia. Maybe Maiar can come a little darker. Maybe they're not very particular about colour of skin.

What's more, she absolutely has the eyes and the looks to make guys fall instantly and madly in love, as it's repeatedly mentioned (albeit in better wording) in the story and the song fragments. And while she can act innocent and lovely, I absolutely think she can pull off the change to the proactive heroine of the story. If you ask me, when looking for an angel walking the earth, look no further.

Sorry, can't help it.

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

she absolutely has the eyes and the looks to make guys fall instantly and madly in love

Really, they ain't working on me?

I'm sorry, but to me she is very unattractive. She doesn't look like an elf, not at all.

I guess I am very picky, but I find a lot of women in Hollywood unattractive...

Just my .2




CL

 

[Halasían]

Really, they ain't working on me?

I'm sorry, but to me she is very unattractive. She doesn't look like an elf, not at all.

CirdanLinweilin, so you don't like Durandir's POV on how Luthien looks like, and likely not mine either. Any example you would like to provide on how YOU see Luthien? It would be better than just hosing down other people's opinions with your negative waves. Just sayin'.

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

CirdanLinweilin, so you don't like Durandir's POV on how Luthien looks like, and likely not mine either. Any example you would like to provide on how YOU see Luthien? It would be better than just hosing down other people's opinions with your negative waves. Just sayin'.

I apologize. I wasn't really trying to hose down Durandir, I was just explaining that I don't find a lot of Hollywood actresses pretty. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I respect his and your opinion. I just don't find her attractive.

As for how I see Luthien,

The fairest China white skin, raven hair, tall, fair, graceful, and glowing.

Again, I apologize, for my words, I should've explained it better. I just don't find Latin women that attractive, but Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I respect your opinions.

Honestly though, it'll take a lot to portray Luthien, even more for Tolkien's Luthien!! I personally think it's not impossible, just very, very, difficult.

I can't imagine any actress for Luthien, because I think Luthien, is far beyond any actress' beauty! For goodness' sakes, she's an Elf!

Morena could, quite possibly, walk the walk, but it'll be very hard for them to: Talk the Talk.


I am just very worried Hollywood would eviscerate her character. A thousand and one ways just popped into my head of how they could.

CL

 

[Halasían]

Thanks. I was curious what your thought on it would be.
Yes, I agree that hollywood will trash it. It would have to be a true independent affair done by someone who knows and loves Tolkien's world, who has class. Not being a b-grade monster movie maker would help. I kind of had the same reservations about Arwen when the first movie came out in '01. Liv did an ok job, but didn't have the 'Evenstar' look to me.

 

[Durandir]

Uh oh. I thought everyone has to agree when I say something.

Well, no. It's in the eye of the beholder, of course. And, yeah, it's actually impossible for any human actor to portray an elf as described in Tolkien's work. All I'm saying is, if they are indeed going to turn the book into visual media, this is why I would totally watch it. Like once or twice a day.

Sorry. This is the last one. I promise. Must. Regain. Control. Mustn't google any more pictures..... OMG tooo laaate

http://bs1.imghost.nu/images/3/120801.jpg

Phew. At least I managed to make it URL only.

 

[Halasían]

Hmm... actually, she looks more like a Variag daughter of a Khandese Chieftain to me.

 

[Durandir]

meh. Not asian enough. But if you're right, easterlings are HAWT.

 

[Halasían]

I just wrote this fanfic of a civil war in Khand after the War of the Ring, and Khemra, the eldest daughter of a southern tribal chieftain led the rebels. This last pic of yours brought her to life. I'll admit I mashed Star Wars into it, but it worked. I might write her out as a standalone tale!

I always thought Easterlings as more Asian/Mongolian, and Khand as more south Asian with Harad being African.

 

[Durandir]

I just wrote this fanfic of a civil war in Khand after the War of the Ring, and Khemra, the eldest daughter of a southern tribal chieftain led the rebels. This last pic of yours brought her to life. I'll admit I mashed Star Wars into it, but it worked. I might write her out as a standalone tale!

Sounds like a good premise for an unconventional Middle-Earth story. I liked to do similar things as a Middle Earth roleplaying GM, creating easterling and southron characters that wouldn't fit into the one-dimensional "unthinking Sauron follower" drawer. That was long before the movies btw. (where there was a hint at that inner monologue by Sam when he sees the fallen "bad guy")

I always thought Easterlings as more Asian/Mongolian, and Khand as more south Asian with Harad being African.

OK, so that might be a good fit. But unfortunately, there's probably not going to be any big movie projects with Khandese heroines in them.

 

[feanorfrogstar]

I fell in love with her in firefly lol so beautifull