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🧙Gandalf's Business

I would assume that he stopped attending the council's because someone put up a quote in another thread saying that he forsook elves and men, so he really couldn't be bothered with Sauron, even though he did bring a message to Gandalf from Saruman concerning Sauron, so maybe he still cared a little.
 
As noted, Gandalf went south to meet with the White Council of which Saruman was the leader. The business with the orcs in the crossing of the Misty Mountains and the group's time with the eagles may have caused him to consider what was happening in Middle Earth at that time. Furthermore, I do not think he wished to enter Mirkwood because he did not want to attract the attention of the Necromancer in Dol Guldur which was located in the southern part of that great forest.

I also wonder if Gandalf was already speculating about Bilbo's unusual behavior (escaping from the orc den and apparently "sneaking unseen" into their gathering). He definitely had questions on the above and may have decided to see if there were anything else that might shed light on the matter. He does, however, mention his discomfort when he learns while in the South that the road through Mirkwood no longer ran completely through but ended in deadly marshes. I believe when he learned this, he turned around and began to head back to the group - although this must have been AFTER his meeting with Saruman and the rest of the Council. (Interestingly enough, the White Council included Galadriel and Elrond, neither of whom would have been physically included since they did not leave their respective homes. How then, did the "Council" meet? I don't really know.)

Indeed, I have always wondered why Gandalf bothered to get involved in the dwarf business at all even though Thorin had asked that he choose the fourteenth member (to avoid a group of thirteen which was considered unlucky). Might Gandalf have wished the attention of the powerful of Middle Earth to be attracted to what was going on in the Lonely Mountain with the dragon (always an eye-catcher) rather than take note of what HE was doing?
 
But it says in the book somthing like the necromancer has been driven from mirkwood and it says gandalf was there at the council of the white wizards so ?i guess Radagast was there to? i also think that gandalf knew of this plan to attack the necromancer and so didnt get involved because he knew he would be away for a time.
 
Well if it actually says somewhere Council of White Wizards then Radagast was definitely involved, along with the two blue wizards. And you people that are saying Elrond and Galadriel were part of the council, how do you know? I never read that anywhere, so give me a quote and I'll believe it, otherwise I will stick to my thought that it was only wizards.
 
Yes it is, thank you, and may add that I am a fool for not remembering that quote from when I read it.
 

Gandalf's "mission" was to contest the power of Sauron, he knew that smaug would ally with Sauron or at the very least aid him so he had to be removed - it was on his "to-do" list, I'm sure this is written of somewhere (appendix to LOTR ?? anyone ?) and he gives his reasons for the Quest.

To the other poster how do you know that Elrond (or galadriel for that matter she certainly got about) did not leave their respective homes to attend the council ?
 
Question: Do we know WHERE the White Council met? Might they not have met in different places at different times and might not Rivendell and/or Caras Galadon been places at which they met (which would negate the need for Elrond or Galadriel to leave their respective strongholds too often)? Might not Elrond have sent his sons as his emissary as he did after the Battle of the Pelannor with instructions as to his wishes in matters being discussed?

I don't know if any of this is mentioned anywhere, but I do know that Galadriel says that she wanted Gandalf as head of the Council but Saruman was chosen instead, so she at least, must have been a part of it.
 
Actually I think Galadriel said that she chose Saruman for the head of the council but now regretted that decision and if she could have seen the evil that he was going to turn to would have made Gandalf the head of the council, I think it was something like that,but I'm not 100% sure.
 
Originally posted by Popqueen62
I'm not sure either. And i don't even remember who the blue wizards are. Anyone want to refresh my memory?

check out this link It also has links to more threads which will probably tell you more than you could ever need to know. this one also has more info.
 
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