Maeglin
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I have a quick question, but when you answer it please give me some support from the books to back up your answer, because I've found a lot of things that I will post that could send this either way. Anyway, the question is: which had more value? The Arkenstone or Mithril?
On the one hand we have Thorin wanting the Arkenstone more than anything, right here:
And that seems to put the Arkenstone in higher value than Mithril as we can see here:
Now I would assume that if Thorin were putting a coat of mithril on Bilbo but wanted the Arkenstone to himself, then the Arkenstone had more value, but perhaps that is only Thorin's opinion of it, as we can see from LotR that other dwarves most likely wanted mithril more than anything else.
Okay so perhaps this doesn's say bluntly that Mithril had more value than the Arkenstone, but I assume that the arkenstone wasn't worth more than the entire Shire, but I really cannot know for sure. So.....I am lost for an answer, can anyone help me out on this one?
On the one hand we have Thorin wanting the Arkenstone more than anything, right here:
"For the Arkenstone of my father," he said, "is worth more than a river of gold in itself, and to me it is beyond price. That stone of all the treasure I name unto myself, and I will be avenged on anyone who finds it and with-holds it."
And that seems to put the Arkenstone in higher value than Mithril as we can see here:
Now I would assume that if Thorin were putting a coat of mithril on Bilbo but wanted the Arkenstone to himself, then the Arkenstone had more value, but perhaps that is only Thorin's opinion of it, as we can see from LotR that other dwarves most likely wanted mithril more than anything else.
"For mithril," answered Gandalf. "The wealth of Moria was not in gold and jewels, the toys of the Dwarves; nor in iron, their servant. Such things they found here, it is true, especially iron; but they did not need to delve for them: all things that they desired they could obtain in traffic. For here alone in the world was found Moria-silver, or true-silver as some have called it: mithril is the Elvish name. The Dwarves have a name which they do not tell. Its worth was ten times that of gold, and now it is beyond price; for little is left above the ground, and even the Orcs dare not delve here for it. The lodes lead away north towards Caradhras, and down to darkness. The Dwarves tell no tale; but even as mithril was the foundation of their wealth, so also it was their destruction: they delved too greedily and too deep, and disturbed that from which they fled, Durin's Bane. Of what they brought to light the Orcs have gathered nearly all, and given it in tribute to Sauron, who covets it.
"Mithril! All folk desired it. It could be beaten like copper, and polished like glass; and the Dwarves could make of it a metal, light and yet harder than temperd steel. Its beauty was like to that of common silver, but the beauty of mithril did not tarnish or grow dim. The Elves dearly loved it, and among many uses they made of it ithildin, starmoon, which you saw upon the doors. Bilbo had a corslet of mithril-rings that Thorin gave him. I wonder what has become of it? Gathering dust still in Michel-Delving Mathom-house, I suppose."
"What?" cried Gimli, startled out of his silence. "A corslet of Moria-silver? That was a kingly gift!"
"Yes," said Gandalf. "I never told him, but its worth was greater than the value of the whole Shire and everything in it."
Okay so perhaps this doesn's say bluntly that Mithril had more value than the Arkenstone, but I assume that the arkenstone wasn't worth more than the entire Shire, but I really cannot know for sure. So.....I am lost for an answer, can anyone help me out on this one?
