I absolutely hope not. While Peter Jackson wouldn't do it nearly as badly as Amazon, it would still end up being a pretty unworthy result. I can only hope that the Silmarillion never gets made into a movie or series.I really hope, that some day maybe Peter Jackson will produce a serie about the Silmarillion...he will do it right and dont destroy the hopes of fans like the amazon producers did.
Well, i guess, Peter Jackson could do even this wonder....the Silmarillion is very impossible to bring into a movie, but i guess, Peter Jackson could create even from a difficult book like the silmarillion a masterpiece.I absolutely hope not. While Peter Jackson wouldn't do it nearly as badly as Amazon, it would still end up being a pretty unworthy result. I can only hope that the Silmarillion never gets made into a movie or series.
Glad you returned Firinne Gile. Many sign up, few become regulars. I've been hanging around here since 2001. I tried to leave. Sorry to disappoint you in that. Your posts are rather entertaining and have some nice edges in your delivery compared to most of the typical ones of the mindset. I'm going to watch the series, and I'll make judgements on what I see and discuss the show in safe environments. Until then, I'll laugh at the months of posts.If you're going to offend me, have the decency to mention my name. That's what I'm following on several forums: people who are criticizing Amazon are being offended by the defenders of this initiative as if the criticism was directed at them, not at the producers and because of that they start saying personal insults to the others. This is completely irrational. If you don't have the emotional stability to see people disagreeing with what you think, don't join a forum.
Hal - you did see that 61-second trailer, didn't you? 🤔... I'll make judgements on what I see ...
🤣 Thanks for that. It has been made pretty clear that there is little point to try and interact with people who have already clearly made their mind up on this subject. Enjoy!Interact without offending other people. I don't need this, you don't need this, nobody needs this.
Yes I did.Hal - you did see that 61-second trailer, didn't you? 🤔
Uh-huh. Well, you seem to have made up your mind to watch the series come hell or high water ...... little point to try and interact with people who have already clearly made their mind up on this subject ...
I don't believe in writing something completely off because a teaser doesn't seem to fit into some pre-conceived box I've created in my mind about what it should be. I've seen the trailer, and nothing in it was a 'dealbreaker' for me so I see no point in getting my panties in a wad over it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Uh-huh. Well, you seem to have made up your mind to watch the series come hell or high water ...
(serious aside: are you being affected by that deluge that's drowning Sydney and environs ... and perhaps more? 😟)
Well, first (and I only have this on second-hand information), Amazon seems to have managed to seriously anger the fans of the "Wheel of Time" book series with their TV adaptation. That's track record - apparently not good. Then, Galadriel as a Xena clone? Amazon does not have the rights to the "Silmarillion", and thus to the Fëanorian attack on Swanhaven of the Teleri - and her defense of her maternal relatives (or not quite - JRRT never got his pre-Third-Age concept of Galadriel in a final form). Next, Elrond as a (much too) young "aspiring politician"? POLITICIAN??? Like in the US, or any other western country in the last, I dunno, 40 years??? The snippet they showed made me think rather of a cross between Michael Douglas's portrayal of Gordon Gekko in the 1987 "Wall Street" film and the member - perhaps boss - of some generic youth gang.I don't believe in writing something completely off because a teaser doesn't seem to fit into some pre-conceived box I've created in my mind about what it should be. I've seen the trailer, and nothing in it was a 'dealbreaker' for me so I see no point in getting my panties in a wad over it.
Ok.Well, first (and I only have this on second-hand information), Amazon seems to have managed to seriously anger the fans of the "Wheel of Time" book series with their TV adaptation. That's track record - apparently not good. Then, Galadriel as a Xena clone? Amazon does not have the rights to the "Silmarillion", and thus to the Fëanorian attack on Swanhaven of the Teleri - and her defense of her maternal relatives (or not quite - JRRT never got his pre-Third-Age concept of Galadriel in a final form). Next, Elrond as a (much too) young "aspiring politician"? POLITICIAN??? Like in the US, or any other western country in the last, I dunno, 40 years??? The snippet they showed made me think rather of a cross between Michael Douglas's portrayal of Gordon Gekko in the 1987 "Wall Street" film and the member - perhaps boss - of some generic youth gang.
I'm all for giving the benefit of the doubt where it is reasonably applicable. I just have the feeling that the Bezos company is, at very best, in a gray zone here. That "Superfan" clip has me thinking they do not qualify for even "reasonable doubt" in the least.
Is that "rape" as in theft (rape of the Silmarils) or as in sexual assault? I'm not sure either applies here . . .After the Peter Jackson rape of Lord of the Rings, a full book mind you, the mold was cast to pretty
It really was...awful.That "Superfan" clip has me thinking they do not qualify for even "reasonable doubt" in the least.
While those (and the Ents deciding against fighting Saruman) are truly horrible, they are much smaller changes compared to the setting level changes that this series seems to be making. Agree to disagree I guess.Ok.
After the Peter Jackson rape of Lord of the Rings, a full book mind you... and nothing I saw in that snippet has really gone beyond anything worse than 'elves in Helms Deep' or 'lunatic Denethor' territory.
Peter Jackson shows Galadriel in a way, from which i think, Tolkien would have totally love it, if he could see it.Ok.
After the Peter Jackson rape of Lord of the Rings, a full book mind you, the mold was cast to pretty much make up what you want when there is source content, let alone incomplete parts of story. Like I said before and in multiple places, I'm willing to give them a wide berth here, and nothing I saw in that snippet has really gone beyond anything worse than 'elves in Helms Deep' or 'lunatic Denethor' territory. The whole 'Armoured Galadriel' thing is clearly a hat-tip to Peter Jackson's vision.... in case anyone forgot....
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It really was...awful.
While those (and the Ents deciding against fighting Saruman) are truly horrible, they are much smaller changes compared to the setting level changes that this series seems to be making. Agree to disagree I guess.
Speaking of Galadriel, Warrior Princess, here's a pic someone did of that concept a while back by Sara M. Morello:
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Really horrible, it looks like those betrayed women who want to kill their boyfriends. I also prefer classic illustrations.
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Really horrible, it looks like those betrayed women who want to kill their boyfriends. I also prefer classic illustrations.
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No, they are not. Xena at least has personality and was very beautiful.
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Poor Morfydd has no personality and is completely disheveled and without spirit. Their inspiration for "Galadriel" is someone else, the typical arrogant and unloved modern heroines without any femininity and with a rude behavior.
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Yes, that is very trueA woman's greatest power is and will always be convincing through calm, powerful words and sweet, kind and charming behavior.
Yes, Galadriels biggest strenght is her wisdom, and in Tolkiens Middle Earth, she had never a sword i her hand.
Yes, Galadriels biggest strenght is her wisdom, and in Tolkiens Middle Earth, she had never a sword i her hand.
This horrible serie is made for Marvel Fans in Teenage age. And they give the warrior princess Galadriel this braid, because that reminds the young Teenage girl on their latest Idol, ice queen Elsa.
Galadriels eyes are so icy cold in this serie, i totally dislike that, there is not the warm expression i can see in her eyes in Peter Jacksons movies.
And Galadriel would never take a sword and guiding an army to go killing a lot of Orks. Even when the Orks did harm to her daughter, she didnt do that revenge. I dont like the angryness and hate, which the Amazon-Galadriel radiate. For me that is a reason to not watcht the serie.
And in the serie there is the star-symbol of Feanor, Galadriels uncle, on her armor.
And that is totally absurd, because in the Silmarillion you could read, that Galadriel can see in the heart of her uncle a lot of malice, and dislike him very much....and he was the only one or her relatives, which was not allowed to touch her hair.
It is totally impossible, that she fights in his name in his armor, because she didnt like him and his war ambitions.
The Amazon-Galadriel looks like Ice Queen Fans on a Cosplay:
They made a Galadriel for teenagers, which have watched the Ice Queen in cinemas a few years ago....not for Tolkiens Fans. The Amazon Galadriel has no soul, no personality, no charisma...it is just another fighting warrior woman, like already exist in a lot of movies....they are all interchangeable because they are so similar. There is nothing from the wise, peaceful, charming Galadriel we Tolkienfans love so much.View attachment 12019View attachment 12020
It doesn't look like it, it's impressively the same. It's sad how they reduced Galadriel to an angry teenager with no soul in her eyes, just like the new Tiktok generation. Dark times where people with so much money and power destroy everything they see ahead like wretched Orcs.
Yes, a lot of my postings have been deleted, only because i have written, that i am totally angry, that the Amazon-producers represent elves and dwarfes in the absolutely wrong way(you all know, what i mean, but the moderators dont allow me to write what i mean)@Annatar, I would like to say that my thread about Annatar's arrive has been deleted and all conversations will no longer be visible. Censorship started here too and that's why I'll be leaving the forum. I will only return if it is possible and very necessary. Thank you for your messages and I congratulate you on your way of thinking. I'm disappointed in how things are resolved here without any respect and consideration for the user.
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