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Tolkien's "Special" Words

....to a nicety The Council of Elrond (Gandalf speaking): "…let folly be our cloak, a veil before the eyes of the Enemy! For he is very wise, and weighs all things to a nicety in the scales of his malice…Into his heart the thought will not enter…that having the Ring we may seek to destroy it…", [Definition: exactly, accurately.]
"nice" (from which nicety derives) is one of those words whose orignial meaning is so far removed from its current meaning you have to wonder if it's really the same word. Tolkien's use of it reflects the 1500s definition.

Evolution of "nice"
1300s: Foolish, ignorant, silly (derived from Latin nescius - "not knowing")
1400s: Fussy, dainty, fastidious
1500s: Precise, fastidious, refined
1700-1800s: Agreeable, charming, and eventually, kind/thoughtful
 
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Fane: Akallabeth “But in the midst of the land was a mountain tall and steep, and it was named the Meneltarma, the Pillar of Heaven, and upon it was a high place that was hallowed to Eru Iluvatar, and it was open and unroofed, and no other temple or fane was there in the land of the Numenoreans.” [Definition: a temple or shrine. Archaic]
 
Fane: Akallabeth “But in the midst of the land was a mountain tall and steep, and it was named the Meneltarma, the Pillar of Heaven, and upon it was a high place that was hallowed to Eru Iluvatar, and it was open and unroofed, and no other temple or fane was there in the land of the Numenoreans.” [Definition: a temple or shrine. Archaic]

Thanks.
Although, fane was already on the list...

fane Akallabeth: "…and it was named the Meneltarma, the Pillar of Heaven, and upon it was a high place that was hallowed to Eru Iluvatar, and it was open and unroofed, and no other temple or fane was there in the land of the Numenoreans.", [Archaic meaning: temple.]

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Thanks.
Although, fane was already on the list...

fane Akallabeth: "…and it was named the Meneltarma, the Pillar of Heaven, and upon it was a high place that was hallowed to Eru Iluvatar, and it was open and unroofed, and no other temple or fane was there in the land of the Numenoreans.", [Archaic meaning: temple.]

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Origin of "fane"... comes to us from the Latin word fanum: a temple or sanctuary or shrine.
Notice our word "profane" the modern meaning is impious (unholy). It comes from the Latin word profanum which literally means "before the temple"; that is, something or activities outside the temple. The temple was for holy things, religious rites. Anything taking place out side the temple was secular, the everyday activities typically associated with the common people.
 
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I feel like I need to read more about oliphant before preparing an entry for our word list. So, I'll give just an enticing bit of preliminary information on this one, for now...

Here's an interesting meaning I just discovered today. An oliphant is a horn made from an elephant tusk! And, in the depiction below Roland (a military leader under Charlemagne, 12-13 centuries ago) blows a note on his oliphant too late, losing the battle and his life. (Sounds quite familiar to every LOTRs fan, I'm sure.)


Roland blows a note on his oliphant at The Battle of Roncevaux Pass.
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Tolkien: An oliphaunt is an elephant.
Real World: An oliphant/olifant is a war horn or hunting horn made from an elephant tusk.

Olifant from the treasury of Aachen Cathedral
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This entry for the list became a bit cumbersome. So, starting with a summary explanation: I am quite intrigued that Tolkien first uses the word oliphaunt (cited below) shortly before we meet Faramir and learn that he recovered Boromir’s horn. And, Boromir’s horn and final battle bear some striking similarities to this historical Knight of Charlemagne, Roland, and his olifant/horn and his final battle of history and epic poetry.

oliphaunt The Black Gate is Closed: "Sam stood up, putting his hands behind his back…and began: ‘Grey as a mouse, Big as a house, Nose like a snake, I make the earth shake…Oliphaunt am I, Biggest of all, Huge, old, and tall. If ever you’d met me You wouldn’t forget me…’", [Meaning: elephant.] {Noteworthy Similarity to oliphant sometimes spelled olifant: The Song of Roland, A Translation by Dorothy L. Sayers, Published 1957: “The County Roland with pain and anguish winds His Olifant, and blows with all his might. Blood from his mouth comes spurting scarlet-bright He’s burst the veins of his temples outright. From hand and horn the call goes shrilling high: King Carlon hears it who through the passes rides, Duke Naimon hears, and all the French beside. Quoth Charles: “I hear the horn of Roland cry!...”, [Definition: a horn made from an elephant tusk sometimes used as a hunting horn or sometimes as a war horn. Sometimes used as a proper name specifically to denote Roland’s horn. Roland was a Knight under Charlemagne. He blew his olifant/horn calling for aid at the ‘Battle of Roncevaux Pass’ but died before aid could arrive 15 August 778 A.D. Consider the similarity with Boromir, his horn, and his final battle.]}

The death of Roland at the Battle of Roncevaux, illuminated c. 1455–1460 by Jean Fouquet
(Note the olifant laying by Roland’s side)
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As Detective Columbo might say: “Just one more thing...”: There’s an epic poem “The Song of Roland” just like there’s Tolkien’s “The Song of Boromir”.

From Wikipedia…

The Song of Roland (French: La Chanson de Roland) is an 11th-century chanson de geste based on the deeds of the Frankish military leader Roland at the Battle of Roncevaux Pass in AD 778, during the reign of Charlemagne. It is the oldest surviving major work of French literature. It exists in various manuscript versions, which testify to its enormous and enduring popularity in Medieval and Renaissance literature from the 12th to the 16th centuries.

It is an epic poem written in Old French and is the first example of the chanson de geste, a literary form that flourished between the 11th and 16th centuries in Medieval Europe and celebrated legendary deeds. An early version was composed around AD 1040, with additions and alterations made up to about AD 1115. The final poem contains about 4,000 lines.


I'd love to hear from anyone who's heard this story of Roland before and/or made any connection to Boromir and his horn. Especially if you see any errors in anything I've presented above.
 
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Concerning oliphaunts ...

The OED to the rescue!

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According to the OED...
OED entry is spelled oliphant,... alternate spellings are oliphaunt (the way Tolkien spells it) , and olifant (this is way it came to the English language from Old French).
The archaic spelling (c.1300 and as Tolkien used it) meant the animal. Likewise it came to mean a horn or trumpet made of ivory.
The word elephantus is Latin and dates back to ancient Rome (prior to the Empire) ... the word meant both the animal and the ivory [tusk] .
 
A short article about Mr. Roland from the oldest books I own, "Everybody's Cyclopedia", 1912.

This bit sounds almost exactly like Boromir:
"His character was that of a brave and loyal warrior, but simple and unsuspecting in his disposition."
The definition of unsuspecting, "unaware of any danger or threat", seems to sum up Boromir's fatal flaw, IMO.
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Now I see this has been discussed a few times before. (I searched last where I should have searched first.)



@Squint-eyed Southerner :
"I haven't read Roland in decades, so I'll have to find my copy for a reread. But I can't imagine it having no influence at all -- Tolkien would surely be very familiar with it. The fact that the horn was called "Oliphant" is at least suggestive. 😀

Of course, Boromir's horn -- and others -- have functions, in the fictional structure, and in the structure of the imagery. I said a bit about that here, if you want to take a look:"
 
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Tolkien: An oliphaunt is an elephant.
Real World: An oliphant/olifant is a war horn or hunting horn made from an elephant tusk.

Olifant from the treasury of Aachen Cathedral
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This entry for the list became a bit cumbersome. So, starting with a summary explanation: I am quite intrigued that Tolkien first uses the word oliphaunt (cited below) shortly before we meet Faramir and learn that he recovered Boromir’s horn. And, Boromir’s horn and final battle bear some striking similarities to this historical Knight of Charlemagne, Roland, and his olifant/horn and his final battle of history and epic poetry.

oliphaunt The Black Gate is Closed: "Sam stood up, putting his hands behind his back…and began: ‘Grey as a mouse, Big as a house, Nose like a snake, I make the earth shake…Oliphaunt am I, Biggest of all, Huge, old, and tall. If ever you’d met me You wouldn’t forget me…’", [Meaning: elephant.] {Noteworthy Similarity to oliphant sometimes spelled olifant: The Song of Roland, A Translation by Dorothy L. Sayers, Published 1957: “The County Roland with pain and anguish winds His Olifant, and blows with all his might. Blood from his mouth comes spurting scarlet-bright He’s burst the veins of his temples outright. From hand and horn the call goes shrilling high: King Carlon hears it who through the passes rides, Duke Naimon hears, and all the French beside. Quoth Charles: “I hear the horn of Roland cry!...”, [Definition: a horn made from an elephant tusk sometimes used as a hunting horn or sometimes as a war horn. Sometimes used as a proper name specifically to denote Roland’s horn. Roland was a Knight under Charlemagne. He blew his olifant/horn calling for aid at the ‘Battle of Roncevaux Pass’ but died before aid could arrive 15 August 778 A.D. Consider the similarity with Boromir, his horn, and his final battle.]}

The death of Roland at the Battle of Roncevaux, illuminated c. 1455–1460 by Jean Fouquet
(Note the olifant laying by Roland’s side)
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As Detective Columbo might say: “Just one more thing...”: There’s an epic poem “The Song of Roland” just like there’s Tolkien’s “The Song of Boromir”.

From Wikipedia…

The Song of Roland (French: La Chanson de Roland) is an 11th-century chanson de geste based on the deeds of the Frankish military leader Roland at the Battle of Roncevaux Pass in AD 778, during the reign of Charlemagne. It is the oldest surviving major work of French literature. It exists in various manuscript versions, which testify to its enormous and enduring popularity in Medieval and Renaissance literature from the 12th to the 16th centuries.

It is an epic poem written in Old French and is the first example of the chanson de geste, a literary form that flourished between the 11th and 16th centuries in Medieval Europe and celebrated legendary deeds. An early version was composed around AD 1040, with additions and alterations made up to about AD 1115. The final poem contains about 4,000 lines.


I'd love to hear from anyone who's heard this story of Roland before and/or made any connection to Boromir and his horn. Especially if you see any errors in anything I've presented above.
I heard of the Song of Roland in Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc by Mark Twain.
 
I added one term to the list today:

paladin The Road to Isengard: "’Welcome my lords, to Isengard!’ he said. ‘We are the doorwardens. Meriadoc, son of Saradoc is my name; and my companion, who, alas! Is overcome with weariness’ – here he gave the other a dig with his foot – ‘is Peregrin, son of Paladin, of the House of Took…’", [One meaning: The Paladins, also called the Twelve Peers, are twelve legendary knights, the foremost members of Charlemagne's court in the 8th century.]

There seems to be a lot of Charlemagne associations whirling around Pippin for some reason:

Pepin The Short (German: Pippin der Kurze) was father of Charlemagne.

Pippin Took was son of Paladin. The Paladins were the 12 knights of Charlemagne.

One of the twelve Paladins of Charlemagne was Fierabras (sometimes described to be of gigantic stature and having a formidable arm).

Fierabras shares a final syllable with Pippin’s ancestor Bandobras “the Bullroarer” Took (also of “gigantic” stature at a whopping 4-foot 5-inches and also known for his formidable arm {inventing the game of golf and all that})

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Bandobras (“banner-arm”) “the Bullroarer” Took
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Coronation in 751 of Pepin by Boniface, Archbishop of Mainz
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I don't think it warrants an entry in the list, just some thoughts on the ings and the lings...

We've all heard of ducklings and goslings. Star Wars includes Younglings. I'm sure there are many more.

Tolkien gives us Bardings, Entings, Beornings, and my personal favorite: a Thengling. (Theoden, son of Thengel, is of course a Thengling. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to find it a little funny but I do. From now on I'm referring to Sam's children all as Samlings.)

"...War was kindled. There Theoden fell, Thengling mighty, to his golden halls and green pastures in the Northern fields never returning, high lord of the host..."

These ings and lings were brought to us by a member of The Inklings. (Should the term be thought of as though it were: Children of the Ink?)

Are there any other ings and lings in the story?
 
Another -ing: Dunlending

More -lings: halfling, princeling, hagling, Easterling, lordling

Aragorn discovers a mithril coat:
"Look, my friends! Here's a pretty hobbit-skin to wrap an elven-princeling in!"

Lobelia gets insulted by the ruffians triggering her umbrella attack instinct:
''So get out o' the road, old hagling!"

Our friends are insulted by Saruman:
"You made me laugh, you hobbit-lordlings, riding along with all those great people..."

Movie Gimli uses Elvish princeling. A light-hearted insult between friends at this stage of the story, I suppose:
 
“not but what” is a particularly strange-sounding grouping of words to my ear: very clumsy and hard to decipher a meaning from the combination of simple words.

(My information about the meaning is from not-so-authoritative sources. Hopefully, I have it right.)

In the story, “not but what” is used only twice by Barliman and twice by Sam (both characters with particularly colorful and entertaining speech patterns.)

not but what The Stairs of Cirith Ungol: “...If we’re caught napping, Stinker will come out on top pretty quick. Not but what it would be safe for you to have a wink now, master. Safe, if you lay close to me…” [Archaic meaning: certainly, undoubtedly, without question.
Literal Meaning: It can be interpreted as “there is no situation in which {the following statement} is not true.” For example, “I can’t say otherwise but that it was a great performance,” means the speaker has no other opinion than that it was great.
Figurative Meaning: This phrase can be used metaphorically to emphasize certainty or acceptance of a fact despite potential doubts or counterarguments.]

Another use by Sam:

Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit: “…There’s a good deal of Stinker—the bad Gollum, if you understand me—in him still, and it’s getting stronger again. Not but what I think he’d try to throttle me first now. We don’t see eye to eye, and he’s not pleased with Sam, O no precious, not pleased at all.”

Two uses by Barliman:

At the Sign of the Prancing Pony: “Him?...He is one of the wandering folk—Rangers we call them. He seldom talks: not but what he can tell a rare tale when he has the mind…”

Homeward Bound: “What’s The Pony to him [the King], or mugs o’ beer? Not but what my beer’s good, Gandalf. It’s been uncommon good, since you came in the autumn of last year and put a good word on it…”
 
“not but what” is a particularly strange-sounding grouping of words to my ear: very clumsy and hard to decipher a meaning from the combination of simple words.
I occasionally hear it spoken but I have read it, even in contemporary non fiction, articles, journals pretty often.
I suppose the first time I read it I might have wondered at it, but I think that was probably 60 years ago.
 
I added one word to the list today.

Not previously knowing the meaning of coëval, from the context alone (quote below) I always assumed it meant Manwe and Melkor were of equal power. Although, now that I think about it, I see that would conflict with other statements in the book; Melkor is the mightiest.

coëval The Silmarillion, Valaquenta, Of the Enemies: "Last of all is set the name of Melkor, He who arises in Might…Great might was given to him by Iluvatar, and he was coëval with Manwe.", [Definition: of the same or equal age, antiquity, or duration.]

The coëvality of Manwe and Melkor is also indicated/hinted in an earlier sentence in the chapter:

“Manwe and Melkor were brethren in the thought of Iluvatar. The mightiest of those Ainur who came into the World was in his beginning Melkor; but Manwe is dearest to Iluvatar and understands most clearly his purposes.”

If they are both coëval and brothers, then I think that makes them twins. Also, it seems Manwe was the favorite from the beginning. (Did Melkor have a “Daddy always did love you best” complex? It could explain a lot.)

Do you think it's correct to think of Manwe and Melkor as twin brothers who took opposing paths?
 
Possible, though "in the thought of" seems to make it equivocal.
If we were talking about humans , I think "equivocal" would allow the expression to be open to interpretation, as human thought can be capricious and uncertain.
But here it is Eru/God's mind that is referenced. And tho' His mind may be vague and ambiguous to us (his creatures) it is never vague or ambiguous to Himself. Tolkien, when talking about Eru's mind, is presenting it as Eru Himself beholds it, like in the Ainulindalë.
So I would conclude that Manwe and Melkor were brethren in the thought of Iluvatar means exactly what it says; i.e. they were brothers.
 
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So I would conclude that Manwe and Melkor were brethren in the thought of Iluvatar means exactly what it says; i.e. they were brothers.
I took it to mean that they were brothers despite being created and not born (the usual definition of brothers - born with a parent in common). All the Ainur were created by Ilúvatar, yet some are considered close kin while others are not. The distinction of whether they are 'siblings' or not is only in how Ilúvatar thought/created them to be, as they all came into being in the same manner.
 

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