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Was 🧙Gandalf ever born?

Thorondor_ said:
Yes, the posibility of total annihilation of the soul. This is how I interpret Saruman's death.

That would be the only case of that happening, Eru didnt even 'annihialate' the spirit of melkor, they just kicked him out of arda, the valar even forgave him the first time, and would have perhaps pardoned sauron after the war of wrath if he wasn't so ashamed and ran away.
I think when saruman died his spirit was punished, but forgiven by the Valar.
 
All spirits (fëar) proceed from Eru, are given free will, and are therefore part of Eru's plan. It makes no sense that any spirit could be destroyed, only their bodies (hröar).
 
Saruman can not die.
He did not die.
He will not die.
After a time of punishment in ME with no body, the valar will summon him and they will paradon him.(the he will kill the two trees and....wait thats the other evil spirt!)Yup the valar are piting people.
 

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