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Congrats on finishing Pilgrim's Progress. I did not read it until I was in my 40s (or was it my 50s....).
It's not an easy read, as you've probably ascertained , but it's a worthwhile read.
I frequently think of the Giant Despair and his [Doubting] Castle.
Also the phrase "the slough of despond", which I come across most often said with tongue in cheek; a very evocative expression.
"I'd prefer slogging through the Slough of Despond to dealing with my in-laws."

I still have to get through Gulliver's Travels.
You'll like P&P, I think. Once you finish it, move onto Emma.
If you decide to read all of Austen's works, I would strongly suggest you not read Northanger Abbey (NA) until you've read The Mysteries of Udolpho by Ann Radcliff.
The reason is, NA is a satire on the Gothic Novel and specifically on Mysteries, which is an archetype of the genre.
I read NA first, and even tho' I enjoyed it, upon completing it I promptly checked out MofU from the library.
Once I finished Mysteries, I re-read NA and enjoyed it even more because I now better appreciated all the inside "jokes".
And I also liked Mysteries enough that I searched for, and finally found, a second-hand copy of the 1942 Everyman edition, which was the edition I read.
 
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"The End of Everything: How Wars Descend Into Annihilation" by Victor Davis Hanson
Almost a year ago (as you can see by the date of my original post) I began to read this book.
I actually finished it several months later. It is in 4 parts, each section detailing the destruction of a civilization.
(I'd read a section, put it down, pick it and read another section.)
The parts can be read independently but Hanson orders them chronologically, and his comments after each section and introducing the next section reflect that , so it's better to read them sequentially.

The four doomed civilizations (and cultures) are Thebes (335 BC), Carthage (146 BC), Constantinople [Byzantium] (1453), and the Aztec Empire (1521).
Each culture thought it would endure, and would not, could not conceive of its destruction and thorough obliteration.
Both the Introduction "How Civilizations Disappear" and the Epilogue "How the Unimaginable Becomes the Inevitable" give one [sobering] pause.

Anyone interested in military history and/or military warfare would, I think, enjoy this book.
V.D. Hanson is a military historian. I've read mostly essays he has written . He writes well, very readable.
 
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I'm reading Awaken the Three by D.L. Jennings. It's the sequel to Gift of the Shaper and book 2 of The Highglade Series that I read a few months ago. The first book you could definitely tell he was a new author and this one is much better written. I'm looking forward to reading book 3 once I'm done with this one. The author is a local Pittsburgh writer but he seems to be getting more popular going to various conventions and things.
 
Not a book.
Btw can the title of this thread be changed to "What Are You Reading Right Now?"
Because (as you will see and maybe have already seen with my posts) it isn't always a book.

I could link to this but won't because (1) there may be a paywall, and (2) folks are a little bit more likely to read it if I post it rather than link to it.
Also, for the record I am not posting this out of self-interest, tho' it may appear that way.
I have had friends 20+ years my senior; that is they were in their 90's. A very dear friend died at age 94 in 2018. I still miss him.
THese older friends often call me "youngster". I currently have two friends in their early 90s.
I met all these people when I was in my 30s and 40s. (they being in their 60s and 70s)
Anyway, read on and all this will make more sense. (And the vintage pic is very cool, too.)

From The Spectator (World Edition)

The secret to great friendships​

I wish more elderly people made an effort to have younger friends
by Douglas Murray

Tuesday, May 6, 2025


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A few years back, a friend from Newcastle, in the north of England, was down in London and I was giving him a tour of the town. At various points I stopped and pointed out where various friends had lived. “That’s where my late friend X used to live.” “That’s where my much-missed friend Y had his shop.” Eventually my delightfully straight-talking companion stopped me and said: “Are any of your friends f-----g alive?”

I’m happy to report that the answer is “yes,” but it did make me think about something I’ve unwittingly done all my life – which is to have a disproportionate number of friends who are much older than me. One of my closest friends died recently at the age of 93. He was one of the best people imaginable, and we probably ate more meals together over the past 20 years than I have eaten with anyone else.

I think that latterly, as almost all his contemporaries had fallen off the perch, our friendship deepened. I certainly know how much his friendship meant to me. Not just to have someone to speak to who was older, wiser and had a lot more life experience, but to have someone whose longevity allowed him to encourage me, tease me and push me.

Sometimes our life experiences aligned exactly; at other times we mulled on the ways in which they couldn’t. One thing that my friend found absolutely incommunicable was the nature of aging. Even a man of his experience was baffled in the face of this. “You’ve no idea – how can you?” he used to say. Whenever I took a stand against plans in the UK to introduce euthanasia, he told me I had no right to talk about it because I had no idea what I was talking about – because how could I? I wouldn’t take that from many people, but I was willing to take it from him.

I once told him that his bafflement put me in mind of the great comedian Norm Macdonald, who in his only book wrote: “The only thing an old man can tell a young man is that it goes fast, real fast. Of course, the young man will never understand this truth.”

At the risk of contradicting Norm, there are in fact a lot of things an older person can teach a younger person. There is knowledge, there is wisdom, there is memory. And then there’s perspective. Short-term setbacks seem unimportant with time. Intermittent heartbreaks and frustrations settle down as they recede into the past.

This latest loss made me think about how relatively uncommon it seems to be to sustain friendships with people two or three times your age. I’ve never understood this. All my grandparents died while I was quite young, so I missed much of that. But I don’t think I ever went searching for grandparent-like figures. I just enjoy being around people who are interesting, who have lived and, to quote grandiosely Stephen Spender’s most famous poem, “remember the soul’s history.”

A wonderful friend who died a few years ago – also in her nineties – was more fun than most girls a third her age. She was curious, fascinated by new trends and had a memory that went back a century. She loved the company of younger people as much as we loved hers. One day she and I were talking about Benjamin Britten and she suddenly said: “I can’t remember, Douglas, did you know Ben?” I was a bit startled – slightly worried that she was losing it – and said: “Darling, he died three years before I was born.” Without missing a beat she said: “Oh yes, I keep forgetting you’re not the same age as me.” You could have scooped me up off the floor from the compliment.

Who wouldn’t want to be friends with people who can tell you about those who went long before and what things were like back then? A few years ago I took an elderly artist friend out for dinner in LA. We got talking about the Stravinskys and the 1950s in Hollywood. I felt almost cross at what the other tables in the restaurant were missing out on. It must have been the only table in the country that evening where someone was reminiscing about Vera Stravinsky, and what Rilke once said to her.

I suppose that anyone interested in history would inevitably gravitate toward those who have lived it. But it doesn’t really matter whether someone has lived among the most interesting people of their age or simply felt themselves glance against world events. Either way, they seem to me to provide a useful corrective to and perspective on everything else.

Some readers will have noticed that just about the only group in our society who can be consistently dismissed are the elderly. Look at the way in which audience attendance at public events is judged by how many young people there are – as if the oldies are spoiling it even by showing up. It’s quite right that the next generation should be encouraged to engage themselves. But it doesn’t need to be in a zero-sum game with the older generations.

I wish more elderly people made an effort to have younger friends. At the most selfish level, it helps people through the sniper’s alley that comes your way if you have other friends besides your contemporaries. I also wish more young people realized what they’re missing out on if they only have friends around their own age.

When I read reports about the growing problem of loneliness, I often think about how futile it is to talk about setting up “loneliness czars” and the like. Loneliness cannot be solved by government edict or intervention. It can only be done by people. And while I don’t think many of the older friends I have had have been lonely, I would like to think that together we have discovered something good. Certainly there are gifts reserved for youth – but there are others reserved for age. And for me life has always been at its most rewarding when both are not only in dialogue, but in friendship.
 
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I recently read Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book and I have to admit I was more than pleasantly surprised by how much better it was than the Disney film which I think I've only seen clips of in the old holiday TV programme Disney Time.

There are more stories. They are more realistic. My favourite was The White Seal about a seal who swims the seas to find a safe place for his fellow seals to breed. I bought a book with beautiful illustrations by Robert Ingpen.

 
I've dropped Pride and Prejudice after getting about a quarter of the way through. I just found it kind of boring, I couldn't bring myself to care who married who. I asked my mom and she said it's like that for the rest of the book. I'm not saying it's a bad book, it just isn't for me. Maybe when I'm older I'll find that kind of thing interesting, but right now there weren't nearly enough explosions, battles or deaths for me. Not saying I the only thing I appreciate in books is action, but there has to be some action for me to be interested.
Speaking of action, I've started the Hunger Games series! I started and finished the first book yesterday (after pestering my parents until they agreed to let me read it). I'll probably wait another day before I read Mockingjay, I don't want to overload my brain. I can see why I wasn't allowed to read it earlier, but the author did a pretty good job of not being gory or overly descriptive in a book about teenagers killing each other. I'm thinking of watching the movies, but I'm worried that they might be too gory. Has anybody here watched them? I'm okay with intense stuff when it's in a book (I read 1984 when I was 10 and I was totally fine), but when it's in a movie my tolerance level is kind of low (I had to close my eyes for most of Dune 2).
 
Hunger Games is excellent! I think I managed to make them last about three days the first time I read them.
Suzanne Collins has also written two new Hunger Games books, The Ballad Of Songbirds And Snakes, and Sunrise On The Reaping, which I can't wait to read.
 
Many years ago I was at a literature festival and the comparison of Austen and the Brontes came up, I stood up and made the point that there's too much about marriage and money in Austen - not so much of the passion on the moors of Heathcliff and Cathy etc. Well it was like I said the Black Death was a good thing or something even worse e.g. here saying PJ is a good director of films. Austen novels are well written with all the semi-colons in the right places but I think you have to be in the right mood for them
 
That, right there.
It's an exceptional youngster who can appreciate and enjoy Austen and similar authors of other eras.
This is not a criticism. Many kids read Austen, Bronte Hawthorne, Swift, Faulkner and the like in High School. I did.

Some of those novels you may like, most you just manage to get through them (and write the paper).
But you do remember them, and when you are older, they come back to you both the ones you thought Ok and the ones you wanted to make a bonfire of.
Now, being older, you are ready to re-read the "OK" ones. (And maybe even attempt one or two that escaped the bonfire.)

This is why they have you read them in High School; not for that moment but for later, when, having experienced more of life and love you will truly be able to appreciate them. Had you never been exposed to them in HS, you will have nothing in memory to pique your interest when you are older.

FWIW I tried to read the HG .... it was a slog.... it's a good story, meaning the bones of the story are there, but the writing, the "fleshing out" is mediocre.
I could not (and still cannot) imagine attempting the sequels.
Once you have read good writing mediocre writing is a trial to get through.
Kind of like once you have eaten good food, fast food is ....OK, but not one's first choice, or even second or third.

Still, it is forever true: de gustibus non disputandum est. (About taste, it cannot be argued)
 
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This made me laugh.
With apologies to Captain Renault (Casablanca)




 
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Yeah, I've gotten to the third book of The Hunger Games, and I'm not zooming through it like I was during the first book. The story is good, but the writing is... eh.... I'm not sure how to describe it. It's shallow. The sentences are flat. At least there isn't as much romance in the third book as there was in the first two *barf*. I've gotten this far, so I will finish it the series, but really the best book was the first one. Also, I've noticed that when I write I sometimes unintentionally mimic the most recent author I read, and I don't want to start sounding like Suzan Collins.
Same thing happened to me with The Ranger's Apprentice. I tried starting it, got through the first few chapters, but then dropped it because I couldn't stand the writing style. I might try it again in a few months or so, since I have bunch of other stuff on my reading list now.
I was actually kind of surprised when I found myself struggling to concentrate on Pride and Prejudice, since I've gotten through stuff like Hamlet (non-translated) and The Pilgrim's Progress okay, and those aren't exactly adrenaline packed. But I guess there still needs to be something going on for me to be interested: in Hamlet, he's trying to assassinate his uncle, in Pilgrim's Progress Christian faces various dangers. As far as I know, nothing like that happens in Pride and Prejudice. Same happens to me in studies, I've noticed: I have no trouble concentrating on History when we're studying a war or something, but as soon as we get to peace treaties or conventions or bloodlines then my brain wanders off to Middle Earth, Arrakis, Minecraft or somewhere else without my noticing, and I have to keep dragging it back. Maybe it's something I'll grow out of, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I just can't get my brain to stay put if it doesn't see a reason to stay put.
I will definitely try to give Pride and Prejudice a go again in a few years, maybe romance novels will be more interesting to me then, if I can relate to the characters better. (the only romance novel I currently like is Romeo and Juliet and that's only because they both die at the end ).
I'm thinking of going for the Dune sequels after I finish HG... Still trying to decide about that, since I've heard mixed opinions about them, and I'm worried that they'll ruin the first book for me.
 
Really, the only book that I wanted to put in a fire was Queen's Shadow because it is an absolute disgrace to Padme Amidala (not that I liked her that much in the first place, but the book makes her just plain awful), and my 9th Grade Chemistry book, because every time I opened that thing my brain felt like it was going to explode
 
Is Queen’s Shadow the one where
her one handmaiden teams up with Darth Vader to investigate Padme’s death?
 
Troubled Waters by Sharon Shinn. I picked it up at the library on a whim and I'm really enjoying it. It's a rather light-hearted fantasy.
 
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