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Why didn't the 🦅Eagles take the ring to 🌋Mordor?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed this, but I'll risk a slew of reactions anyway.

The Eagles (of each relevant period) always seem to arrive to save the day.
Not just at the Black Gate in LoTR;
at the Battle of the Five Armies in TH - though it's Beorn who finally tips the scale with his ferocious attack;
and in the climactic last battle in the War of Wrath before Thangorodrim - here if was Eärendil's dispatching of Ancalagon the Black that decided things.

Whatever JRRT might have thought about 20th-century air forces (very little, as his letters to Christopher, training to be a pilot in South Africa in 1944, indicate), he sure liked to bring in the feathered versions in his Middle-earth tales.
 
Especially by the time Gandalf realises Frodo has the ring it‘s a risky proposition to use the Eagles, if they even agreed to the trip. Sauron’s forces were all marshalled by that point and on the lookout.
 
I honestly can't believe this is still a question, but it has probably been asked and answered probably millions of times.

Anyway, I like Tolkien's answer to this question:


(Disclaimer: I'm not actually entirely sure that's really Tolkien speaking)
 
I'd say that Eagles to Mordor is above Balrog wings. One of them is a "plot-hole" and the other is just something we don't know.
My guess is that the error in thinking derives from the scene where Eagles arrive at Mount Doom to save Frodo and Sam, so why wouldn't hey have been able to ...

HUGE difference.

When the Eagles arrived at Mount Doom to rescue Frodo and Sam, the One Ring had been destroyed, Sauron had been permanently de-bodied and rendered impotent, Barad-dûr had fallen into utter ruin, Sauron's forces at the Black gates were destroyed or fleeing, and the plain of Mordor, Gorgoroth, was absolutely deserted of any troops, all of which had been sent to the Black Gate. Compare that to the scene in RoTK, Book Six, chapter II "The Land of Shadow", where Frodo and Sam scrambled up the inner, lower mountain range in western Mordor:

"Frodo and Sam gazed out in mingled loathing and wonder on this hateful land. Between them and the smoking mountain, and about it north and south, all seemed ruinous and dead, a desert burned and choked. They wondered how the Lord of this realm maintained and fed his slaves and his armies. Yet armies he had. As far as their eyes could reach, along the skirts of the Morgai and away southward, there were camps, some of tents, some ordered like small towns. One of the largest of these was right below them. Barely a mile out into the plain it clustered like some huge nest of insects, with straight dreary streets of huts and long low drab buildings. About it the ground was busy with folk going to and fro; a wide road ran from it south-east to join the Morgul-way, and along it many lines of small black shapes were hurrying."

This was, according to Appendix B, on 16 March 3019 (SR 1419), nine days before the destruction of the One Ring.

When could, at the earliest, the decision to "draft" the Eagles to their "air-freight" assignment have been taken?

At the Council of Elrond on 25 October 3018 (SR 1418). So "Eagle airlines" would have taken off on 26 October? Erm, no way.
There have been enough posts about the Eagles, similar to the Ents, not being on anybody's side (definitely not on Sauron's, but ...) as nobody was exactly on their side, either. So, how do you contact the "travel agent" for "Eagle airlines"?

Then the distance. On Karen Wynn Fonstad's only map with a scale that shows both Rivendell and Mordor, the distance in a straight line seems to be about 726 miles, or 1,169 kilometers. A cross-check with my copy of Christopher's map in my 2002 hardcover edition of FoTR yields about 717 miles, or 1,154 kilometers.

As I've mentioned above (on page 2 of this thread), in contrast to large migratory birds like ducks, geese and swans, eagles aren't the greatest straight-line continuous fliers. They very much prefer to soar upwards on updrafts of any sort to continuously flapping their huge wings. So how long would they have needed for that distance?

And whom would they have transported? Only Frodo? I personally think not. At least Gandalf, with whom the Eagles had a special relationship indirectly through Radagast, and directly through an incident of his helping the King (Lord?) of the eagles recover from an arrow wound as described in "The Hobbit" would be necessary. A lot of that flight would have been over enemy territory, and there's always the issue of the Nazgûl on their winged fell beasts.

No, there is no "plot-hole", as far as I can see.
 
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I don't think the Vala Manwe would have interfered so easily/promptly. It was a test not only for Frodo, but for Galadriel ("I pass the test. I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel."), and pretty much everyone, including the Edain and the Eldar in vast numbers. The creation of the One Ring affected the whole of Middle-Earth (I sympathize with the numerous Quendi sailing to Valimar on this one), and it was a test for all. If Manwe had interfered...well, everything would have been too different, right?
 
So i found a theory.

Bird brains are simple interms of instincts. It could drive them to fear and toss Frodo off, and take the ring itself and bring it back to its master.
Thats why they didnt use Eagle to fly the ring to toss it into Mount Doom. It would betray them.
 
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They are Middle Earth "bird brains"; they are endowed with intellect, and so have no instincts.
No dice. Try again. 😉
 
They are Middle Earth "bird brains"; they are endowed with intellect, and so have no instincts.
No dice. Try again. 😉
Well animals cant form their own language due to physical problems (such as beaks or snouts gets in the way of that) and chimps have other issues that is reason they can only do hand signs, whereas humans dont have that issue to form words that means we can form different understandings.
 
I should have said that having an intellect doesn't preclude having instincts .
As dog has an intellect (understanding) but still has instincts.
But there is a hierarchy. A dog will instinctively avoid fire. But if its master is trapped in a burning house it may (and probably will) dash into the house to try and save him.
But here's where the hierarchy comes in....If a person unknown to the dog is in a burning house (and yelling for help) the dog might not enter the house.

So with the Eagles... basically they know the "rules".
Eru forbade them to help Frodo except as directed; e.g. rescuing Sam and Frodo from destruction of Mt Doom.
 
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