🐲Dragons above the Iron Hills

[Dáin Ironfoot I]

I know I have read somewhere that there could have been dragons still living in the wastelands north of the Iron Hills? What do you guys think of this... I am fairly sure I read it in the appendix.

 

[Kahmûl]

There were dragons in the grey mts which are north of the iron hills but the were killed by prince Fram who slew Scatha and took his hoard.

 

[Ithrynluin]

I don't think there is any definite number of dragons available.

There were dragons living North of the Grey Mountains, not the Iron Hills. A cold-drake slew Dáin I, and it is quite likely that more of its kind were lurking in the cold and barren wastes of the North.

 

[Dáin Ironfoot I]

Err ok... where are these Grey Mountains? I see Ered Mithrin... are they considered the Grey Mts.?

 

[Ithrynluin]

Yes Ered Mithrin means Grey mountains. Behind them is the Withered Heath, the abode of dragons supposedly.
Smaug was maybe the last of the "fire-drakes" and only the cold-drakes (which were said to be less powerful) remained.

 

[Dáin Ironfoot I]

I wonder when they were all extinguished, as I know there were rumor of dragons in the Withered Heath during the War of the Ring...

I am fascinated by Tolkien's Dragons and I wish he would have expanded al little more on them

 

[Burb]

i wish there was a dragon in LOTR.

 

[Gwindor]

I think they were all extinguished in the time of LOTR. When Gandalf talks about the destruction of Smaug as a possible weapon of Sauron out of way, he doesn't for a moment entertain the idea of dragons still living in the north that could ally with Sauron.

 

[Ithrynluin]

Smaug was the last of the fire drakes. The cold drake that killed Dáin I wasn't slain, and there were quite possibly more of its kind in the North.

 

[Mr. Underhill]

During the account of the War of Wrath in "The Lost Road" it states that only two dragons survived the final battle. I assumed that these two surviving dragons were Smaug and Scatha.

 

[pgt]

Could there be any connection between the Ring Wraiths flying mounts and these 'cold drakes' (a term I'm wholly unfamiliar with)?

thanks,
T

 

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by pgt
Could there be any connection between the Ring Wraiths flying mounts and these 'cold drakes' (a term I'm wholly unfamiliar with)?

I don't think that was the case. I think that the steeds of the Nine were corrupted creatures of some kind. They just don't strike me as being "cold" and it seems that the cold drakes would stick more to the frozen regions of the Northern wastes.

Smaug and Scatha were the last fire drakes, not the last dragons period.

 

[GuardianRanger]

Just out of curiosity....where is the story of Prince Fram and Scatha told?

 

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by GuardianRanger
Just out of curiosity....where is the story of Prince Fram and Scatha told?

Try Appendix A to "the Lord of the Rings": The House of Eorl.

 

[Melko Belcha]

Letters #144 4/25/1954

Dragons. They have not stopped; since they were active in far later times, close to our own. Have I said anything to suggest the final ending of dragons? If so it should be altered. The only passage I can think of is Vol. I p. 70: 'there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough'. But this implies, I think, that there are still dragons, if not of full primeval stature.

 

[GuardianRanger]

Thanks. I'll have to re-read that section in the appendix.

 

[JediHobbit]

I always viewed the northern wastelands as just that, utter wastelands that were left barren from Morgoth's rule. I also remember getting the impression for The Hobbit that that region was still inhabited by dragons, just none that were as powerful as Smaug.