S01 Season 1 Episode 3: Adar

[Halasían]

I think Tolkien would have been a fan of Jenny Dolfen's work.

A lot of people think they are doing a lot of thinking for Tolkien these days! 😆

 

[d4rk3lf]

A lot of people think they are doing a lot of thinking for Tolkien these days! 😆

Sell that quote to Amazon Prime .
Way better then everything they came up with so far.

....and remember....

THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

 

[Ealdwyn]

THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

Ugh! That part was dreadful.
What would have been more appropriate would be some words of thanks to Ulmo.... but then I realised they don;t have the rights to Ulmo, and so we get this rubbish.

 

[Elthir]

In letter 258 (1964) Tolkien wrote: "I wish "Copyright" could protect names, as well as extracts."

As if it didn't protect names (at the time, in England)? But I don't know anything about copyright law in any case, as it pertains to any place, or time.

Anyway, they could have used something like "Lord of the Sea" maybe, or my preference . . .

THE SEA IS ALWAYS WET!

 

[Ealdwyn]

A quick google tells me that copyright law does not protect names, titles, slogans or short phrases. Which doesn't seem right to me. Or maybe you have to trademark them instead? I have no idea.

I agree, "Lord of the Sea" would have worked much better.

 

[Áramandë Amaniel]

I agree, "Lord of the Sea" would have worked much better.

"Lord of All Waters" would be my preference, but that sounds too similar to a certain moment upon Gondolin in The Silmarillion...I'll say no more (for now).

 

[wonderings]

I am not deeply knowledgeable in the lore of Middle Earth, or beyond The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings as I grew up with those stories and not the rest. I have to know though, does the line "The sea is always right", is that from the books? It sounds so horrible and I just hope that it is not. Is this something that "amazing" writers at Amazon came up with or actually from the history of the Numinorians?

 

[Ealdwyn]

it's Amaz*n

 

[Annatar]

THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!

 

[Áramandë Amaniel]

- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!

Solitude is my portion. Eresse-Tari I am rightly named, Mistress of Solitude.

 

[wonderings]

- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!
- Nobody goes off-trail!!!
- And nobody walks alone!!!

unless of course you can't keep up or get hurt, then you are left to die. Or if you are back of the caravan it is like a death sentence, like being front line in the army before the world of guns. The episode felt so cringe to me.

 

[Annatar]

Because it is so beautiful, here's another wise saying:

"A stone sinks because it looks down into the dark water;
a boat floats because it looks up to the light"

 

[Áramandë Amaniel]

Because it is so beautiful, here's another wise saying:

"A stone sinks because it looks down into the dark water;
a boat floats because it looks up to the light"

Where is the image from? Could you post the link if possible? (Minus the background of the other random stuff, just the portrait itself?) It looks beautiful.

 

[Annatar]

Where is the image from? Could you post the link if possible? (Minus the background of the other random stuff, just the portrait itself?) It looks beautiful.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/f1ff0ba6ef49a2bae14b77a43157c544/41e6613c2afb18cc-5a/s540x810/c5629ad912bb5861ce7298d17a52538e7dba8501.jpg

Edit:

Minus the background of the other random stuff, just the portrait itself?

Unfortunately, I have not found. But I would also be interested to know who the artist was.

Editedit:

Krabat?

https://eldamaranquendi.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F667134803943047168

 

[Áramandë Amaniel]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/f1ff0ba6ef49a2bae14b77a43157c544/41e6613c2afb18cc-5a/s540x810/c5629ad912bb5861ce7298d17a52538e7dba8501.jpg

Edit:

Unfortunately, I have not found. But I would also be interested to know who the artist was.

Editedit:

Krabat?

https://eldamaranquendi.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F667134803943047168

Ah - I see. I shall check it out later.

Hannon-le. Grace of the Valar go with thee.

 

[Maeglin]

unless of course you can't keep up or get hurt, then you are left to die. Or if you are back of the caravan it is like a death sentence, like being front line in the army before the world of guns. The episode felt so cringe to me.

Ugh, that was absolutely the dumbest and most illogical sequence of scenes. "Ah yes, we are a community of disadvantaged and unknown creatures who must stick together in order to survive, but we'll gladly leave anyone behind and then have a ceremony in which we laugh at the manner in which the sad pathetic losers in the back died."

Aside from that, I'm just finding Galadriel's character to be extremely annoying and I thought maybe we'd start to see some progression by this episode. Problem is, I can't tell if the audience is supposed to like her for her fierce, stubborn, need-no-help-from-anyone attitude or if we're supposed to be annoyed by her. I'm annoyed, but am I supposed to be...?

I'm giving it one more episode and something better start happening or I'll be switching my 2 hours a week of TV (yeah, that's all I have time for) to the new season of Great British Baking Show.

 

[Annatar]

Ugh, that was absolutely the dumbest and most illogical sequence of scenes. "Ah yes, we are a community of disadvantaged and unknown creatures who must stick together in order to survive, but we'll gladly leave anyone behind and then have a ceremony in which we laugh at the manner in which the sad pathetic losers in the back died."

Aside from that, I'm just finding Galadriel's character to be extremely annoying and I thought maybe we'd start to see some progression by this episode. Problem is, I can't tell if the audience is supposed to like her for her fierce, stubborn, need-no-help-from-anyone attitude or if we're supposed to be annoyed by her. I'm annoyed, but am I supposed to be...?

I'm giving it one more episode and something better start happening or I'll be switching my 2 hours a week of TV (yeah, that's all I have time for) to the new season of Great British Baking Show.

An excellent summary that clearly identifies the main problems:
- an unsympathetic main character with no social skills whatsoever, who is simply toxic
- an unsympathetic and embarrassing pseudo-hobbit people who like to leave the weakest of the community to die

However, I believe that after this absolute low, things can only get better.

 

[Gondolin's Bard]

Ugh, that was absolutely the dumbest and most illogical sequence of scenes. "Ah yes, we are a community of disadvantaged and unknown creatures who must stick together in order to survive, but we'll gladly leave anyone behind and then have a ceremony in which we laugh at the manner in which the sad pathetic losers in the back died."

That scene wasn't meant to mock anyone that got left behind but to celebrate their life.

Aside from that, I'm just finding Galadriel's character to be extremely annoying and I thought maybe we'd start to see some progression by this episode. Problem is, I can't tell if the audience is supposed to like her for her fierce, stubborn, need-no-help-from-anyone attitude or if we're supposed to be annoyed by her. I'm annoyed, but am I supposed to be...?

You're supposed to think that she's been so heavily traumatized by all the people she's lost that she's letting her grief cloud her best judgment.

 

[Rivendell_librarian]

Like others, I liked the way Numenor was portrayed - impressive yet also smaller scale than Middle Earth. Also, it's good to see Elendil and a young Isildur portrayed. Of course, showing these characters is a large part of the raison d'etre for the series. Humourless super-elf Galadriel is getting more annoying: the slow-motion horse ride was unintentional comedy gold.
Did anyone find themselves singing "look down, look down, don't look them in the eye" in the chain gang scene?

 

[Aramarien]

Spoiler

But if they're following any sort of timeline, Halbrand wouldn't be Sauron, would he? He'd have had to already have made the One Ring before he visited Numenor, right?

I know Amazon may not follow the timeline exactly but he lost his fair form after Numenor was destroyed and had already made the Ring by then, right? Unless he goes back to ME and then after influencing Celebrimbor and making his Ring, goes back I guess.

This is the main problem I'm having with this series. I read that they are going to condense the timeline, which is understandable with an adaptation from book to screen, however, they seem to be jumbling the timeline up and it's confusing me to no end.