What does shooting an arrow have to do with killing with a sword? If you watch the extended version, the berserker uruk-hais will cut down at least 3 elves on their own.Ah, I see. well even from the movie did you not watch the elves unload volleys of arrows and legalas killed how many? 42? the uruks outnumbered them and in medevalistic type warfare, numbers matter. The camera cant show all the kills they capture more the momentum of battle. I saw hundreds of uruks go down and what a dozen elves?
Admittedly I have not read the lost tales since it was early pre third age writings. So you can make up any quote you desire to support your position and I will have no way of correcting you lol.
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But was he [Aragorn] a better swordsman than Glorfiendel? I don't remember anywhere specifically stating such, it could be, that was not my impression but I don't ever remember the two being compared.
In PJ's film. I've watched all three LoTR films, including the Extended Editions. Same for The Hobbit films; I have cinematic and extended versions of all six films. I've drawn the following conclusions:
In PJ's film. I've watched all three LoTR films, including the Extended Editions. Same for The Hobbit films; I have cinematic and extended versions of all six films. I've drawn the following conclusions:
PJ can't do Dwarves, he's hopeless at it, he simply can't stop making fun of them.
He also stinks at Elves. Here there is a problem every director has: portraying JRRT's Elves with merely human actors. This might be a case for CGI.
He loves Orcs and all other baddies. His main claim to fame before LoTR was making low-budget horror flics. It shows at times.
I'm sure you have, but he also stated them to be quite exceptional in appearance, by human norms.I believe I posted a few quotes of Tolkiens saying elves were... well... human for the most part especially in appearance.
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Memory serves. Page 327 in my paperback. No wonder I never find it. Saved quote and book and page reference to a word file on my hard drive.
Christopher Tolkien commenting
'Long afterwards my father would write, in a wrathful comment on a ‘pretty’ or ‘ladylike’ pictorial rendering of Legolas:
“He was tall as a young tree, lithe, immensely strong, able swiftly to draw a great war-bow and shoot down a Nazgûl, endowed with the tremendous vitality of Elvish bodies, so hard and resistant to hurt that he went only in light shoes over rock or through snow, the most tireless of all the Fellowship.”'
1) Aragorn had better not get Legolas mad at him, or he'd be in big trouble.
2) Watch out what you post about JRRT's Elves, or you might have his wrathful ghost haunting you in a very unpleasant way.
Well, going O(ff)T(opic) has a long tradition in TTF, one that I have "upheld" on numerous occasions.Why are we even discussing Jackson in the HoME section?
Nothing in the films happened in HoME.
In the book, I don't recall them keeping score at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. They did so at Helm's Deep, with Gimli coming out ahead by one.
In the book, I don't recall them keeping score at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. They did so at Helm's Deep, with Gimli coming out ahead by one.
Book, easy.This has been a bit for me to, i thought they did keep track but in the movies they were even in the books gimli was one up. Can anyone help these two lost lore masters out? i am at work so i cant go searching at the moment.
Book, easy.
Book Three, chapter VIII "The Road to Isengard" in "The Two Towers", right after the first paragraph:
"... and beside them walked Gimli the dwarf. He had no helm, and about his head was a linen band stained with blood; but his voice was loud and strong.
'Forty-two, Master Legolas!' he cried. 'Alas! My axe is notched: the forty-second had an iron collar on his neck. How is it with you?'
'You have passed my score by one,' answered Legolas. 'But I do not grudge you the game, so glad am I to see you on your legs!'"
Book anything of the sort at the Pelennor Fields: I'm pretty certain there was no such comparison. I'll leave it as a challenge for someone to come up with the quote that disproves me. 😜
Film: of course there's the "Legolas superhero" scene where he shoots three arrows at once into the back of the head (or neck) of the Mûmak (he used two to take down the Troll in the chamber of Marzabul in Moria, in "Fellowship" the film), then surfing down the trunk to meet Gimli indignantly snorting "its still only counts as one!". But even here in the film, I don't believe they ever got around to comparing scores ...
I'd like to know the opinion of a competitive archer, preferably an Olympic medalist, on how likely it is in the real world to try and shoot three (or even two) arrows at a time from a single bow and not make a hopeless fool of oneself (long ago, I had archery in school sport).
OK, so I'm the new boy here, but this whole thread makes me sadWell, going O(ff)T(opic) has a long tradition in TTF, one that I have "upheld" on numerous occasions.
OK, so I'm the new boy here, but this whole thread makes me sad
This is about the most serious Tolkien area there is, and here we are talking about Jackson's cheesy CGI circus and his silly battles.
Morgoth has won, as he always does. Perhaps "The Jackson Forum" would be more appropriate . . . . Will I regret posting this - who knows?
EndThere came a time of winter, when night was dark and without moon; and the wide plain of Ard-galen stretched dim beneath the cold stars, from the hill-forts of the Noldor to the feet of Thangorodrim. The watchfires burned low, and the guards were few; on the plain few were waking in the camps of the horsemen of Hithlum. Then suddenly Morgoth sent forth great rivers of flame that ran down swifter than Balrogs from Thangorodrim, and poured over all the plain; and the Mountains of Iron belched forth fires of many poisonous hues, and the fume of them stank upon the air, and was deadly.
War ceased not wholly ever again in Beleriand; but the Battle of Sudden Flame is held to have ended with the coming of spring, when the onslaught of Morgoth grew less.
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